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Posted on 11/11/2007 9:20:09 AM PST by trumandogz
I’m mexicanned out.
"Not only have I witnessed these things, I've lived them," said Juan Manuel, a painter from Veracruz, who asked that his surname not be used because he is living in the United States illegally.
Juan Manuel is not a Mexican immigant, he is an illegal alien from Mexico.
"It's kind of surprising how poorly some Mexican Americans can treat Mexican immigrants, given that they have so much in common," said the Rev. John Korcsmar, pastor of Dolores Catholic Church in East Austin...
They obviously do not have "so much in common."
Seal the border. The pressure will build up to the point where politicians on both sides will have to do something.
The border states have always exploited this and for most of the recent past the numbers were within comfortable limits, the skills being exploited were not a threat, because "our mexicans" were progressing right along with the rest of "us".
Numbers and political activism have pushed the issue into more of a family confrontation than in the past. People are definately going to feel heat because of the Home-Depot commandos and street protests and the bottom line is that those who came here first and got here legally (including those still hiding that 'cousin' in the garage) will be the second ethnic group to suffer most after Black Americans.
“The illegal alien invaders find no quarter with people who respect our nation and the rule of law. Those that speak out to defend them and what they have done are nothing more than insullent children always trying to skirt the meanings of laws and the need for them, that don’t conform to their true objectives. If someone speaks out in favor of the illegal alien invader, you have every right to wonder what prompts that support. Is it truly compassion? Legal Mexican immigrants don’t share that compassion. Is it truly because they are unable to support themselves back home in Mexico. Legal Mexican immigrants don’t buy into that excuse? Is it the libertarian belief that borders shouldn’t be used to keep anyone wanting to cross them out? Legal Mexican immigrants don’t share that view.”
Good. I think most Mexican-Americans love and respect the USA, while retaining part of their old culture. Illegal Mexican aliens bring a ghetto culture, create slums, and do not respect our institutions, and especially our laws.
That’s at least in part how I see it as well. Thanks.
There is a difference in ILLEGAL immigrants & legal immigrants and they KNOW IT!
Consider the source:
The second speaker, Juan Castillo, shared his frustration over the impasse in fixing a 20-year immigration problem. He focused on the Hutto Detention Center for detained illegal immigrants. Castillo discussed his challenges obtaining information and reporting over its controversial accommodations.
“The human consequences of this impasse and how states and cities are trying to deal with the impasse is unconstitutional,” said Castillo. “The core of the problem is that mothers, fathers, and babies are in jail, although they call it a detention center, it is a jail.”
Castillo emphasized that these detainees are not criminals, but are housed at Hutto Detention Center which used to be minimum security prison. Many of the immigrants at the Hutto Detention Center are waiting on asylum. Presently, there is a congressional subcommittee investigating the conditions in the detention centers.
“Our objective is to shed some light on things that are happening in the shadows, such as Hutto Detention Center,” said Castillo. “It’s a human story, no matter how you think.”
What? What do Mexican Americans have in common with illegal aliens? They want this to be all about race, country of origin. Racism at it's best!
To me this is more of an issue that blood is thicker than water. From what I have observed over a number of years is that legal hispanics will always side with illegals.
I know an 80yo hispanic who was born in this country. She has been saying for years that we need to take in the “Poor Mexican”. She has no qualms about the illegal alien. As a matter of fact she buys food stamps from them.
I also know that many of the government employees doling out food stamps and welfare in the Valley are legal hispanics. They have no problem accepting lies from illegals.
You still can’t get a PO box anywhere. The borders are wide open with shopping cards and many Mexicans get food stamps. I have seen many hispanics help illegals.
I have also seen hispanics snub illegals. Go figure.
I don’t doubt that some of that takes place. I can tell you that I do have contact with hispanic people, and this is not the universal view of illegal alien immigrants among the folks I talk to.
What some people say and what they do are many times different things.
Take for instance the California marches this past spring. Do you think that most were illegals, legals or a mixture of legals and illegals?
Personally, my thoughts were that there was a mixture. The mixture will not report the illegals as they are sympathetic with them. There were marches in the Valley sympathising with the illegals. Illegals also attended and were not reported.
People of Mexican heritage don’t come up to you and express their digust with what is going on because they sympathize with it. I have had this happen a number of times. I don’t walk up to them and ask what they think of it. They blurt it out from their own hearts.
I am careful not to insult people as a general rule. I wouldn’t bring this issue up in a setting with people of Mexican ancestry in attendence. The question is raised in those setting none the less, and by the people of Mexican ancestry.
We can look at the gay parades in Hollywood. Is anyone operating on the idea that every person who marches is a homosexual? Is everyone operating under the impression that all homosexuals like those parades? LOL, the vast majority of homosexuals are appauled at what takes place in those parades.
Some lamebrains see the marches in support of illegal aliens as the same as marching with Martin Luther King. I don’t. I’m sure you don’t either. I’m sure many hispanics are as disgusted and offended if not more, than we are when they see this.
I’m not convinced we can extrapolate widespread hispanic support for illegal immigration from these marches.
The numbers in some of these marches are large, but the largest have more than hispanics marching. And as large as some of those marches are, there are litterally millions upon million who are not marching in solidarity with what is taking place.
You and I are from 2 different worlds and see things differently. The South Texas valley is approximately 95% Hispanic.
I have Hispanic neighbors, Hispanic friends, legal and possibly illegal. I don’t know if all are legal. However, I do know a few are illegal. Yes, we do talk about it as I have known most of these people for 20 years or more. I have seen some of them get naturallized also. Even those naturalized will sympathize with the illegal. Somehow, they seem to have a guilt trip of becoming a citizen while the illegal is struggling.
We talk politics both local and national as this area is the capital of the Democrat party in Texas. Hillary usually makes a yearly trip down here.
We had a good time when Clinton was in office talking about Monica. I was probably the only Republican they knew. They were all trying to get me to support Clinton so I had to endure listening to all kinds of true confessions. LOL! It was hilarious.
I’ll be quite honest that I don’t know how much support the legal Hispanics give to the illegal. Quite possibly, since this is such a heavily Democrat area, the support is more widespread and outspoken.
Terrill, R-Moore, said he wants to crack down on so-called anchor babies, children whose mothers come to the United States to give birth. The U.S. Constitution states children born in this country are U.S. citizens.
His idea to deal with babies born to illegal immigrants would be for Oklahoma to refuse to issue a birth certificate, he said. Instead, the state would send an acknowledgement of birth to the U.S. embassy or consulate of the parents' nation of origin requesting a birth certificate.
"That would set up the legal challenge because you would have unlawfully present, foreign national parents who would be suing the state of Oklahoma to try to get a birth certificate for a child who they would be claiming is a U.S. citizen,” he said.
Well I am surprisingly to see that another side to the immigration story is coming out.
Folks, I am an American of Mexican & Spanish ancestry. I do speak Spanish because of my father. With my mother always English.
I can tell you that there are some of Mexican ancestry feel resentful that Illegals are coming in here, and bringing down wages and getting benefits that we as citizens can’t.
I had my own experience when I had to go to see a doctor. I didn’t have insurance and was unemployed, so I had to go to the county. I had to give $240 bucks UPFRONT or no service. As I did, and sat there in the waiting room. This Mexican lady comes walking in with her 2 kids. She told the receptionist she didn’t have insurance. The receptionist asked her if her kids were insured and she said no. Then the receptionist then asked her if her kids were born here in the US, and she said no except for one who was not with her. The receptionist told her she can try to help her by signing up her child that was born here under some Healthy Children program, and then the rest of them can get coverage thru the child.
That really opened my eyes and I was pissed. Here I am a true blue American, and cannot even get a financial assistance. Yet this woman and her dam Anchor Baby got help.
So yes, there are many Americans with Mexicans who are against Illegal Immigration. This will affect ALL AMERICANS no matter whether your of Mexican, Spanish, Irish, Polish, German, Italian, etc. Ancestry.
If that’s what you are seeing, then that’s what you should be reporting. And that’s fine by me. I can only address what I see as well.
I appreciate your comments.
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