Posted on 11/11/2007 12:36:48 PM PST by Vision Thing
The biggest problem with government programs isn't inefficiency. The problem is that by creating a sense of entitlement many of the programs do more harm than good. To be sure, a private charity could implement some the policies that make government welfare so harmful, but such policies are very rare with private charities and very common with government programs.
I find it amazing how many liberals want to eliminate the stigma associated with accepting welfare, rather than recognize that such stigma plays a very important function. The proper way for a person on welfare to stop being stigmatized is not to have government provide stigma-free ways of receiving welfare, but instead to get a job. Some people may have psychological difficulties in that regard, but declaring idleness to be acceptable isn't apt to solve the problem.
Speaking anecdotally i can say this.....throughout my life, every time i got a raise in pay i raised my weekly contribution to the basket they passed around at Mass by Five Bucks. And every time i did that shortly thereafter more raises came AND promotions and things like higher per diems and business travel allowances... and along the way the stock market soared and i pulled out at the peak just before it plunged...im up to 80 bucks a week at present....i’m tellin ya each time i raised the amount that i gave; eventually way more than that came back to me...it’s happened time after time after time....way beyond coincidence.
That post was worth it's weight in gold. Rush couldn't have said it any better himself. Thanks. :^)
My friends who tithe are the wealthiest friends I have. On the other hand, I have another friend who is one of the most active members in his church, but doesn’t tithe. He struggles financially. I once mentioned the phenomenon of givers who end up receiving more than they give. He hasn’t adopted it yet.
It’s just strange how this phenomenon works. I’m not sure how much this article explains it, but the phenomenon just astounds me.
It’s also quite Biblical. Tithing is more than just a concept to many Christians (unfortunately, not all). Look at the very last page of the Old Testament, in Malachi. In there is the ONLY place in the Bible where God says, in effect, “hey....TRY me on this; just TRY me”......when He is addressing tithing.
Tithe....and I absolutely, positively guarantee you that you will prosper economically. It is patently impossible to out-give God.
Great folks out there like Jerry Savelle have been preaching this for YEARS. He gives more per year than most upper class Americans even make...and more pours in every year. Accordingly, he gives more. As he put it once recently when I saw him speak at our church in NC..”Some try to give me grief for how much money I make. Whenever I hear that, I don’t get angry; I merely respond with ‘oh yeah? well check out my GIVING first, THEN come talk to me’”. He’s right.
I once mentioned the phenomenon of givers who end up receiving more than they give. He hasnt adopted it yet.
Its just strange how this phenomenon works. Im not sure how much this article explains it, but the phenomenon just astounds me.
I know the article doesn’t seem to ‘splain how or why this is true only that it is true..i too have noticed that the smartest kindest richest people i know are all regular churchgoers...and givers...there’s something to this v/t it seems undeniable...
any body else care to agree or disagree with this?
Thanks for mentioning Malachi. I found the passage that you mentioned. I see proof of this in my churchgoing friends who give. They are doing well. And in those who don’t give, they aren’t doing so well.
Supply side Econ 101?
“Steal nasty profits from the “poor” and send the money to buy Chinese worker slaves....”
Oh come on, everyone benefits when less taxes are paid especially when regulations are eased as well.
Let me give you an example:
What if taxes were cut to 10%, and every licensing and insurance mandate were vacated?
The “rich” could buy things in support of the local economy, and the “poor” could deliver those goods and not be overburdened by regulations...
The government must hate citizens such as Stratton. First of all, as DJtex mentioned above, the Strattons of our nation do 4 to 5 times a better job of helping people than government ever could. And secondly, as supercat pointed out in anohter post, government programs may not be intended to help. Instead, they may be secretly intended to harm.
Several months ago, Rush had a caller who was slightly confused by the following two seemingly contradictory facts:
- less taxes result in higher government revenues.
- lib dems want higher taxes despite the previous fact, resulting in less money for their government social programs.
Rush explained that lib dems know that lower taxes will give their programs more money. But this isn't what they really want. Instead, they want to control people. That's why they persist in raising our taxes.
Does God not also say that those who sow sparingly shall reap sparingly? Very much like planting corn...
First, giving is it’s own reward.
Those who give are happier.
That happiness shows, and spreads to others.
Positive things occur in response to positive attitudes.
Second, those who manage their spending enough to ensure they have some to tithe, usually don’t waste their money.
Therefore they would probably keep more of their income than those who can’t ‘spare’ a dime for the church plate.
Here is the thin Vision Thing, Americans are generous people, the so called “rich” are the most generous of all Americans, “rich” America donates unmentioned Billions every year.
A fascinating study found that people in the South were far more generous then Northern people, for me the reasons are simple:
Abandon God’s Laws
Be taxed to death in the meanwhile
The thought of a omnipotent God is not popular in the NE at the moment, so rather then deal with “Love thy neighbor” folks in the NE have to deal with “property tax due by...”
I lived in Boston before I moved here to Dallas. I’ve never seen anyone in Boston offer chartible gifts. And though the people I know in Boston were relatively propserous (how can they not, especially when they needed to cover their high cost of living), I thought most of them were miserable and unhappy. But they seemed to be happy with their high taxes. These two things (the general unhappiness and the taxes) were some of the many reasons I left Boston.
Here in Dallas, I see people give through tithing and volunteer positions. And they are all doing well, which isn’t too hard to do because the cost of living here is relatively low. But, the people in Dallas that I know are far happier than the people I knew in Boston.
I feel you VT, it’s just different “down South”.
Not as much cynacism down South.
At least, not where I come from.
Yes, and the deadly sin of Gluttony extends beyond food; McMansion anyone? I think one of the keys to being content and happy is nurturing simple, healthy, and self-controlled appetites.
There are also measures of wealth that are not monetary; the gifts of time and health, for example.
It seems the time and health of far too many retired folks are often squandered. I suspect many retired professionals would find themselves to be a valuable resource for homeschool providers.
....”As an abstract, the poor will spend the money, and increase economic activity in the community and that raises everyone’s boat as it were as the money stays in the community for the most part.”
Yah. And, in Walmart.
I’d expect that personal giving and government giving are applied very differently. Personal giving involves individual judgements, such as whether the recipient is truly in need, and whether the gift will improve the recipients situation. A small gift to fix up a car and keep the recipient going to work keeps a lot of capital from being idle or otherwise tied up and useless. A government payment, on the other hand, tends to increase idleness and destruction of wealth.
That would be capital flight onyx eyes, a symptom of Consumerism run amok.
Instead of the money being spent at the local grocery being spent at the local gas pump, it flies away to Arkansas, making it unavailable to the community.
It takes money to make money.
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