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Smoking out the facts (Giving up smoking can kill you)
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | Sunday, October 28, 2007 | David Warren,

Posted on 11/12/2007 6:51:35 AM PST by fanfan

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To: fanfan
Smoking is supposed to cause cancer, heart disease, erectile dysfunction, hair loss and house fires.

While that may or may not be true, it is a proven fact that Liberalism can, and will, kill you and as many others as it possibly can.

I'll keep my cigs, thank you very much.

Anti-smokers: by the way, mind your own business and you won't be minding mine.

161 posted on 11/12/2007 3:57:10 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

If you are younger than 62 (my age) you are still a kid. Using the same reasoning, everyone over 62 is old.

These numbers change once a year.


162 posted on 11/12/2007 4:04:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: fanfan

“Do you wear perfume?”

Nope. Aviod all scented products. They give me sneezing fits.


163 posted on 11/12/2007 6:05:33 PM PST by Sunnyflorida (Peace is the aftermath of victory.)
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To: Seruzawa

“The only two people I know personally who got lung cancer never smoked at all.”

I knew 4 that never smoked and one that did. I probably know 15 that died of any cancer and none smoked.


164 posted on 11/12/2007 6:42:55 PM PST by spanalot
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To: monday

“My hypothesis is that my body produces more white blood cells than normal in order to get rid of the smoke.”

My earlier post about uranium miners having less cancer if they smoked moderately was from an article that hypothesized that smoking up to 10 cigarettes a day did no harm and to the contrary, increased the thickness of the mucous lining and prevented the radon particles from implanting in the lung tissue.


165 posted on 11/12/2007 6:49:57 PM PST by spanalot
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To: metmom
I have a tee shirt with another version of what PMS stands for: Precious Moody Southerner. As a Southern girl from NC, I particularly like that version.

As for the relationship between smoking and cancer, I have always thought the record was mixed since people who have never smoked develop lung cancer and many people who have smoked for decades do not. My husband, now 56, is trying to stop smoking after having smoked since he was 14. He has recently been diagnosed with the beginnings of emphysema which does have a direct connection to smoking. His father, who died of a heart attack when my husband was only 16, also suffered from emphysema. There is thought to be a genetic component to the disease, also.
166 posted on 11/12/2007 7:04:26 PM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: MrB

My husbands heart Dr. told him NOT to quit smoking because of the stress level of quiting smoking.


167 posted on 11/12/2007 7:22:02 PM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: metmom
Everyone I know who has emphysema smoked. No thanks.

Our pastors mother never smoked a cigarette in her life and just passed away from COPD.

168 posted on 11/12/2007 7:24:49 PM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: qam1

Well said!


169 posted on 11/12/2007 7:39:38 PM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: beckysueb

There’s one thing apparent from the thread, even though is anecdotal, and that’s that sudden changes of any kind seem to increase stress on the body, whether we know it or not, that can often be fatal.

Your body can’t distinguish between sudden change for the good or bad, it just reacts.

Good thing to keep in mind.


170 posted on 11/12/2007 7:59:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: qam1
Nobody is allergic to cigarette smoke because it's physically impossible. An allergy is caused by an over reaction of your body's immune system to a protein. Cigarette smoke does not contain any proteins.

Antigens are often proteins but not always. Non protein molecules called haptens can bind with larger molecules and create an allergic response.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapten

However, an asthma attack is an asthma attack regardless of the cause. Treatment may vary but the discomfort and symptoms are the same and not being able to breathe because of airway restriction is not only not pleasant, but downright scary. You know that it's only minutes you have without air and asthma CAN kill.

This allergic/asthmatic person cannot handle any other smoke and seeing it isn't the issue. If I'm upwind, I'm fine.

I've often encountered the callous condescending attitude expressed in this post and for that reason, don't give a rip about someone whining about being restricted in where they are allowed to smoke.

Cigarette smoke and smokers give people with miserable lives an excuse to believe they are morally superior to someone else. They are not happy people and sad to say the only joy they get in life is to try and make other people miserable.

That's the pot calling the kettle black.

171 posted on 11/12/2007 8:11:29 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: sweetiepiezer

My father quit and twenty years later died of lung cancer. I hate these boorish ads telling people to quit smoking or die.


172 posted on 11/12/2007 8:12:55 PM PST by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way. No Mitt . No way. No McCain. No way.)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


173 posted on 11/12/2007 9:23:54 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ditter

Let’s say I opened a bar for smokers and those who don’t mind smoking, post it clearly and advertise it as such. Why does your ilk come in and demand we stop smoking in it?


174 posted on 11/12/2007 10:04:37 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
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To: Ditter

I worked in the Operating Room at a hospital in Sacramento in the late 60’s. Every time the Doctor’s locker room door (inside the OR suite) opened.... (into corridor leading to the OR’s,) huge,billowing clouds of cigarette smoke would flow out into the corridor. And yes, doctors did smoke in patients rooms, cafeteria, lobby, emergency room as did nurses and techs.


175 posted on 11/12/2007 10:08:33 PM PST by clooney4824
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To: this_ol_patriot
I never have advocated non smoking bars. Aside from the fact that I don’t drink and don’t go to bars, it seems like smoking and drinking should go together. BTW I didn’t make any of these non smoking rules or laws I just benefit from them.
176 posted on 11/13/2007 5:41:26 AM PST by Ditter
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To: mamelukesabre
Stop it mame, you are making too much sense!

Stop smoking *BEFORE* it damages your lung tissue? Why didn’t someone think of this before?

LOL!

177 posted on 11/13/2007 5:48:36 AM PST by Ditter
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To: mamelukesabre

LOL, true.


178 posted on 11/14/2007 10:08:19 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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