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Smoking out the facts (Giving up smoking can kill you)
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | Sunday, October 28, 2007 | David Warren,

Posted on 11/12/2007 6:51:35 AM PST by fanfan

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To: fanfan

Everyone I know who has emphysema smoked. No thanks.


41 posted on 11/12/2007 7:36:17 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: fanfan

Maybe. We all know smokers to whom this happened. My own father-in-law was one. But they probably would have gotten cancer had they kept on smoking, too. In other words, by the time you have been smoking for forty years, the damage to your cells is done. But quitting might repair the damage to your circulatory system.


42 posted on 11/12/2007 7:37:24 AM PST by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: Moonman62
“Peter Jennings resumed chain smoking after the 09/11 attacks.”

I tried to smoke chains but how do you keep them lit?

Brother Dave Gardner

43 posted on 11/12/2007 7:39:36 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: fanfan
An evolutionary argument could support this hypothesis. Man is the only animal who cooks his food, and thousands of generations of our ancestors, pent up in smoke-filled caves, could easily account for this biological mechanism

HAHAHAHAHAHAH yes, because you know, cooked flesh and burned wood is the same as nicotine, tar, and all the other goodies added to shredded tobacco leaf in a cigarette.

44 posted on 11/12/2007 7:40:17 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: moondoggie
I think it's in the genes.

My allergist/asthma specialist said much the same thing. If you have a tendency towards lung problems, like asthma and allergies, then smoking will do you in. If you don't, it won't, and that explains why some people smoke and get emphysema and such, and why some live till their nineties.

45 posted on 11/12/2007 7:40:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: fanfan

I’m stunned.

I have personally believed this for years but who the hell is going to believe you when you say this? It was one reason I refused to quit for so long.

But I did quit two years ago. Still have my fingers crossed.


46 posted on 11/12/2007 7:40:58 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: Gorzaloon

And hundreds of thousands of others developed lung cancer and died while never stopping smoking at all.

You don’t abuse your body for decades and think it’ll have no impact.


47 posted on 11/12/2007 7:41:18 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Glenn; spanalot

My b-i-l has smoked two packs a day for forty years, had a heart attack and developed emphysema before fifty while still smoking.


48 posted on 11/12/2007 7:43:01 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: fanfan

Maybe my dad’s an exception...but he quit smoking at 40 and is now
staring down his 80th birthday in a couple of weeks.
His only health complaint is some dermatological problems (maybe
brought on by his 44 years in the petrochemical lab? Or just his
bad luck?)


49 posted on 11/12/2007 7:47:27 AM PST by VOA
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To: metmom
had a heart attack and developed emphysema

I would never argue that smoking is a "good thing". I was just saying...

50 posted on 11/12/2007 7:49:31 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: HamiltonJay

The only two people I know personally who got lung cancer never smoked at all.

Too much BS masquerading as science. No profession on earth has as sordid a history of lies and incompetence as the medical profession.


51 posted on 11/12/2007 7:50:04 AM PST by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I need to start hanging out with your crowd. :)


52 posted on 11/12/2007 7:54:29 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Of course, the missing factor in this study is the fact that many, many (if not most) lifetime smokers who finally quit -— only quit because their lungs are so badly damaged they can barely breath.

Of course people with badly damaged lungs have an increased risk of lung cancer.

Cart, meet horse.


53 posted on 11/12/2007 7:54:32 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian
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To: Glenn

What about quitting slowly, which I’m sure is harder to do?

Would a nicotine patch help? Could it be related to what that does to your body?

There’s still a lot of unanswered questions.

It reminds me of a friend. She put the family on an very low fat diet quite suddenly, just decided to do it one day. Her husband had a serious heart attack within a month. She always wondered if the sudden change was responsible. This sounds like much the same thing.


54 posted on 11/12/2007 7:54:54 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Seruzawa

That’s what makes this whole thing so difficult to sort out.


55 posted on 11/12/2007 7:55:55 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AZLiberty
I wonder if giving up chocolate is equally dangerous?

I don't intend to find out!

56 posted on 11/12/2007 7:57:36 AM PST by lonestar
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To: Seruzawa

Everyone I know who’s died from it were life long smokers... sorry, but you are beyond denial if you are sitting there trying to deny that smoking is not an activity that vastly increases the risk of developing lung cancer.

Maybe you need to go read the 1950s report, long before politically correct nonsense was the mainstream.


57 posted on 11/12/2007 8:01:56 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: metmom

Low fat diets are another myth of the medical profession. Just like low sodium. God only knows how many people die because of these phony inventions. Why would any one go to a medical doctor for nutrition advice anyhow? The doctors spend millions attacking vitamin salesmen and nutritionists, etc. I recently saw another “study” that “proved” that vitamins don’t help people. How can anyone take a profession seriously that perpetrates such fraud through cooked studies?


58 posted on 11/12/2007 8:06:03 AM PST by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: HamiltonJay

You mean like the Kinsey study?

I’m not denying anything. I just don’t trust the doctors. It took years and years to convince them to wash their hands. They are just as arrogant and imperialistic today.


59 posted on 11/12/2007 8:09:32 AM PST by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: HamiltonJay
Nicotine is a highly addictive substance. All addicts are in denial. Otherwise they would not smoke. You cannot use logic on addicts. You are wasting your "breath." They can't hear you. I have friends and family in the medical profession and you would be amazed the things addicts do. Lying is a big one and lying to themselves is the biggest.

The thing I find disgusting is smoking around kids. OK, so you are an addict and there is not much we can do about that, but smoking around kids, as if it is just a normal thing to do, is reprehensible.

60 posted on 11/12/2007 8:09:43 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Peace is the aftermath of victory.)
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