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Why I Think Hillary Will Win (Dick Armey Gives a Major Wake Up Call to the GOP)
Freedom Works ^ | November 13, 2007 | Dick Armey

Posted on 11/13/2007 3:14:13 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary

If the 2008 presidential election were held today, Hillary Rodham Clinton would win.

Hillary’s minor stumbles in last week’s debate notwithstanding, she is simply running the most disciplined and effective campaign. She’s one of the most able politicians in America, and no one should underestimate her desire to be President and her calculating focus.

What you need to understand is that Hillary Clinton is, quite simply, craftier and more aggressive than the rest of the field. I know this firsthand, having battled with the Clinton Administration throughout the 1990’s while serving as a leader in Congress.

She’s only gotten tougher since then.

Early on, there were many fights, but one of the most important was over Hillary Clinton’s 1993 plan to expand government control of the health-care system. We were lucky to stop it, and we did so by standing our ground on the principle of putting patients ahead of bureaucracies. But now she’s back, and the health-care issue is a perfect example of the way she’s learned on the job and evolved her tactics.

Her latest health-care plan is more of the same stuff—greater federal control of our lives—but this time she’s presenting it in a way that is far more politically savvy. She leaves open questions of funding and enforcement, and is actively working to buy off the groups who opposed her plan in 1993.

Hillary Clinton and her agenda are not going to fade away. She is relentless and determined. Once she resolves a course of action in her mind, she is not going to be wishy-washy. The other candidates, and the rest of the world, will quickly learn that Hillary Clinton means business.

No doubt, Hillary Clinton has the Democrat primary all wrapped up. A couple of one-term senators are simply no match for the political machine she and her husband have built. I won’t go so far as to say that it’s not possible for a Republican to defeat her in the general election. But as things stand today, the GOP has a very real set of problems that are larger than any of the party’s candidates.

First and foremost, the Republican brand as effective stewards of the taxpayer dollar is in tatters, and the shredding doesn’t look to stop any time soon. Just yesterday, 138 House Republicans joined the Democrats in voting to override the president’s veto of a wasteful and pork-ridden Water Resources bill. That vote was a shameful display of personal politics over the national interest, and it contains the seeds of destruction of whatever conservative principles remain in the Republican party.

The callow accommodation to big-spending Democrats in Congress is one of the ways the Republican party will return itself to the days of serving as a compliant, permanent minority. Happy for table scraps, elected Republicans will simply abandon the ideas of their party in order to “get along”.

No wonder Americans prefer Democrats on the economy, taxes, and spending issues, according to recent polling data. When the choice is between Democrats, and the Democrat-lite ideas the GOP has become so comfortable offering, the Democrats will win every time.

The only way the Republican party will beat Hillary Clinton is to return to its limited-government roots. That’s the only way to rebuild a majority coalition.

For example, today religious conservatives are confused, disillusioned, and somewhat fractured. Too many of the current crop of self-appointed social conservative leaders have embraced an agenda that splits the GOP coalition. Big government ideas— runaway spending on “conservative” social programs, social engineering in the tax code, and greater government intervention into Americans’ personal lives—are the wrong path. This pandering has hurt the GOP in swing states, especially in the Mountain West and Great Lakes states.

To counter Hillary Clinton’s perfectly oiled political machine, Republicans need to return to their Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan roots. They need to present an alternative vision for America—a positive vision that limits government and trusts individuals and leaves families, churches, and businesses free to make their own decisions, and not have bureaucrats and politicians calling the shots.

Right now, the country is headed toward a date with Hillary Clinton, and big government is on the agenda. The only way to change that rendezvous is for candidates to offer a clear, principled, limited government alternative.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008elections; armey; gop; hillaryclinton
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I think we need to stop convincing ourselves Hillary can't win. Unfortunately she can. I'm not quite so pessmistic as Armey, but she has a real shot in a political environment that is awful for the GOP right now. Polls that show 50% won't vote for her don't hold up when she's matched against the GOP candidates, against whom she either beats or in one case only basically ties or slightly loses. We need to stop the squabbling amongst ourselves, the tired "RINO" labelling, and threats of third party candidates or not voting and unite, or we're going to be looking down the barrel of far left wing extremism having total hold on the government. Sometimes it's better to take a plate of 75% of what you want, than a buffet of bulls--t like we'll get from the Clintons.

I know, some of you will call Armey a RINO, he's not, but he is the last fiscal conservative we've had in a position of governing power in the GOP. He is worth listening to and not easily dismissed.

1 posted on 11/13/2007 3:14:17 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

She has to win to usher in the Apocalyse where all liberals will be cleansed from the Earth once and for all...


2 posted on 11/13/2007 3:19:00 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: All

She cries and lies...all in one breath.


3 posted on 11/13/2007 3:19:22 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary
I’ve never said Hillary can’t win. It doesn’t take any inside intelligence to know she’s favored and she’s one tough candidate.
4 posted on 11/13/2007 3:20:06 PM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

I’m not going to live in fear of terrorists so living in fear of Hillary would be foolish.


5 posted on 11/13/2007 3:20:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s not about living in fear, it’s about recognizing reality and taking necessary precautions. I don’t think it’s an act of fear to lock your doors at night. It’s an act of sensible prudence. The same is true of not underestimating this woman’s abilities and chances, and what’s more not sitting out the vote next year if you don’t get a candidate who doesn’t think 100% like you do.


6 posted on 11/13/2007 3:21:52 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

I agree. Anyone who thinnks Hill cannot win has his head in the ether or the sand.


7 posted on 11/13/2007 3:22:26 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

Our country survived 12 years of the likes of Clinton and Carter and it makes me sick to my stomach to think of 4-8 years of another Clinton. The country would survive it but I don’t know if I would.

That being said, I have serious doubts that I could ever vote for Rudy, Mitt or Paul, Paul doesn’t have a chance but the two top guys Rudy and Mitt are unacceptable for me.

All my voting life I have been voting for the “lesser of two evils” with the exception of Reagan, whom I genuinely liked. Sadly there’s no Regan on the scene now.


8 posted on 11/13/2007 3:22:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

Scare tactics won’t work on me.


9 posted on 11/13/2007 3:23:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

Dick Armey is understandably miffed at the lack of support from the GOP during his financial fiasco. I’m sure part of the problem was that people don’t like him very much ...

Welcome to FR. You spelled “penitentiary” wrong.


10 posted on 11/13/2007 3:23:18 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

Hillary is easier to beat than Obama or Edwards despite Dick Armey’s problems beating her, an unelected nobody with average intelligence, in policy debates during the Clinton years. JMHO of course.


11 posted on 11/13/2007 3:23:24 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

But if she wins, I’m selling off things that she could “take away from me for the common good” and go live in low-rent housing (or become a missionary to a small island somewhere).


12 posted on 11/13/2007 3:24:06 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

..the real battle starts in January.

13 posted on 11/13/2007 3:24:38 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

Hitlery can beat any of our candidates right now. But we’re not united yet. Once we unite under one candidate we can face Hitlery.


14 posted on 11/13/2007 3:25:50 PM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary
not sitting out the vote next year if you don’t get a candidate who doesn’t think 100% like you do.

Settling for a candidate that is damn near as liberal as Hillary is not acceptable to me either.

I'm talking about the gun grabbing baby killing, homo marriage promoter Rudy.

15 posted on 11/13/2007 3:25:58 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Uh Dick,The beast is not slick willy.She does not hold a candle to him.Sooner or later she will have to debate one on one with our Republican nominee and she will get slaughtered.


16 posted on 11/13/2007 3:26:58 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: jwalsh07

Wait until the Presidential debates next year. Either Rudy or Mitt will run rings around Hildy. I guarantee it. The ONLY way she could come out looking good in a debate against Rudy or Mitt (or Fred for that matter), is if she is intentionally nothing but soft-ball questions.


17 posted on 11/13/2007 3:28:16 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Tax-chick

I hope you give me a pass on the word “cemetery” sometimes I spell it right and sometimes I don’t (cemetary). Guess it depends on my mood.


18 posted on 11/13/2007 3:28:30 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Bobkk47

“is if she is intentionally ASKED softball questions”.


19 posted on 11/13/2007 3:29:11 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Graybeard58

I put two r’s in girrafe half the time.


20 posted on 11/13/2007 3:29:13 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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