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Romney Assails Giuliani, Huckabee on Tuition Breaks for Illegal Immigrants
Fox News ^ | Nov 13, 2007 | AP/Fox News

Posted on 11/13/2007 5:04:57 PM PST by tompster76

SIOUX CITY, Iowa — Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney, seeking to protect his lead and fend off challenges from rivals in this early-voting state, assailed Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee over supporting tuition breaks and broader sanctuary for illegal immigrants or their children.

The former Massachusetts governor singled out two of his Republican opponents and likened them to Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton, saying Tuesday: "There are those people in both parties who are in a sanctuary state of mind, who believe in sanctuary cities, who believe in policies which are sanctuary in nature."

In campaign appearances and advertisements in Iowa and elsewhere, Romney is increasingly using illegal immigration to differentiate himself from the rest of his opponents. The issue is particularly salient in Iowa's ultra-conservative western region, given the influx of immigrants coming to work in fields and factories in recent years.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; amnesty; elections; huckabee; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; instatetuition; mitt; mittromney; romney; stoprudy2008
Great that amnesty is an issue. Huckabee is amnesty activist.
1 posted on 11/13/2007 5:04:59 PM PST by tompster76
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To: tompster76

This is what these guys need to do. If you want to win, you best point out the flaws in your opponents.


2 posted on 11/13/2007 5:09:03 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: indylindy
This is what these guys need to do. If you want to win, you best point out the flaws in your opponents.

Let them eat each other over whose more conservative while the true conservative whose been consistent on illegal immigration all along, Duncan Hunter, emerges.
3 posted on 11/13/2007 5:14:06 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: tompster76

Mitt’s silence regarding Fred is notable here.


4 posted on 11/13/2007 5:15:02 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Fred isn’t rising in Iowa. Huckabee is.


5 posted on 11/13/2007 5:16:23 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Man50D

That is what needs to happen. Hunter is the true conservative, the true fighter on security and Islamo terror.

He is pro life, pro gun, pro sovereignty, anti illegals.

What the heck are we all messing around with most of these other dufuses for?


6 posted on 11/13/2007 5:17:22 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: rogue yam

He didn’t go after Ron Paul, either. Clearly, Romney does not believe that Thompson is a serious threat anymore.
Re Thompson: Romney stated: “He was elected to the Senate, went to the Senate. What did he do during that time period? I just don’t know. It doesn’t stand out as an effort that he made.”
(I agree. Fred had the opportunity to do something, e.g push for the fence but he didn’t)


7 posted on 11/13/2007 5:18:28 PM PST by tompster76
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To: indylindy
Sorry, but I'll never vote for a Quisling traitor.

"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.

Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention

Thursday, Jun 30, 2005

By Wesley Brown

Arkansas News Bureau

LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.

"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.

Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.

About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.

Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.

"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.

He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation. "Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you."

Despite several light moments, Huckabee did not stray away from several controversial issues that made him a target of criticism during the recently ended 85th General Assembly. He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity "in culture, in language and in population."

"This is an issue that is going to require extraordinary efforts on both sides of the border, particularly those coming from Mexico," Huckabee said of verifying the status of illegal aliens. "But I am confident that our government will recognize that we should accommodate people who wish to provide the best opportunities for their families (and) employers so that we can make sure our economy has the necessary work force."

During the legislation session, Huckabee criticized an immigration bill by Republican senators Jim Holt of Springdale and Denny Altes of Fort Smith as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life. Senate Bill 206, which died in the Senate, would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and also force state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally. Holt, R-Springdale, replied later to Huckabee's comments that Christian charity does not include turning a blind eye to lawbreaking.

8 posted on 11/13/2007 5:19:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: tompster76

We should not be giving people legal incentives to break the law and enter the country illegally.


9 posted on 11/13/2007 5:24:00 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: indylindy
What the heck are we all messing around with most of these other dufuses for?

The GOP has been appeasement mode with the socialist Democrats for years for the sake of compromise with the hope of expanding its base by attempting to prove the GOP is all inclusive at the expense of conservative principles. The result is increasingly socialist candidates with each succeeding election. Eventually the Hillary types will look conservative to Republicans if the trend continues. Duncan Hunter can reverse the trend by restoring conservative principles to the GOP.
10 posted on 11/13/2007 5:25:14 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: tompster76

well he sponsored Mccain feingold...


11 posted on 11/13/2007 5:25:29 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Man50D
while the true conservative whose been consistent on illegal immigration all along, Duncan Hunter, emerges.

Emerges? To where? I think his poll numbers are what? 1%

12 posted on 11/13/2007 5:29:31 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Travis McGee

I am not a fan of Mitt or Huck. I just want these candidates to get out there and start dukeing it out. I want them to start exposing each other so that people get a true picture of what they may be supporting. Truth is, many people do not know, and Huck is out there fooling them.

I am a Duncan Hunter fan. To me, he has about all the qualities we need for the next POTUS.

Wish everyone else could see that.

I will not vote for Rooty, Huck, Paul, McCain, or Romney if I can help it. Narrows it down for me.


13 posted on 11/13/2007 5:31:58 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: tompster76

Tuition for illegals would be more relevant if they offered bachelor degrees in leaf blowing and picking lettuce. This is really the last election that gives us the chance to regain control of the border


14 posted on 11/13/2007 5:32:56 PM PST by Battle of Tours
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for posting this. Please continue to do so. It should be printed up on handouts and stuffed in the front door of every Iowa voter. Somebody’s got to get the truth out about this sanctimonious, smary, do-gooder. He reminds of Jimmy Carter. The same kind of naive, asinine, provincial, backstabbing hick with an inflated idea of his importance and moral superiority. Listening to him in the debates makes me almost physically ill. The simple-minded sermonettes that he tries to pass off as substantive responses to questions shouldn’t fool anyone. When is the MSM going to start exposing this fraud?


15 posted on 11/13/2007 5:36:35 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: Man50D
Duncan Hunter can reverse the trend by restoring conservative principles to the GOP.

I know. I totally am sold on this guy. He had an hour on the Glenn Beck show last Friday.

I came out of that hour more sold than ever. Talk about "straight talk". That was Hunter.

He's not flowery, or full of BS talk, he just says what I want to hear.

16 posted on 11/13/2007 5:39:40 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: tompster76

“For about eight years, Rosales said, he worked on and off landscaping the grounds at Romney’s home, occasionally getting a “buenos dias” from Romney or a drink of water from his wife, Ann.

“She is very nice,” said Rosales, 49.

About 6 miles away in Copado, a 37-year-old man who recently returned to Guatemala from the United States told a similar story, describing long days tending Romney’s 2 1/2-acre grounds.

“They wanted that house to look really nice,” said the worker, who asked to remain anonymous. “It took a long time.”

As Governor Mitt Romney explores a presidential bid, he has grown outspoken in his criticism of illegal immigration. But, for a decade, the governor has used a landscaping company that relies heavily on workers like these, illegal Guatemalan immigrants, to maintain the grounds surrounding his pink Colonial house on Marsh Street in Belmont.

The Globe recently interviewed four current and former employees of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, the tiny Chelsea-based company that provides upkeep of Romney’s property. All but one said they were in the United States illegally.

The employees told the Globe that company owner Ricardo Saenz never asked them to provide documents showing their immigration status and knew they were illegal immigrants.

“He never asked for papers,” said Rosales, who said he had paid smugglers about $5,000 to take him across the US-Mexican border and settled in Chelsea.

The workers said they were paid in cash at $9 to $10 an hour and sometimes worked 11-hour days.

Romney never inquired about their status, they said.

In addition to maintaining the governor’s property, they also tended to the lawn at the house owned by Romney’s son, Taggart, less than a mile away on the same winding street.

Asked by a reporter yesterday about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, Romney, who was hosting the Republican Governors Association conference in Miami, said, “Aw, geez,” and walked away.”

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/12/01/illegal_immigrants_toiled_for_governor?mode=PF


17 posted on 11/13/2007 5:41:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: plain talk
I think his poll numbers are what? 1%

You shouldn't have so much confidence in polls. They are lacking for several reasons:

1. They target a very small percentage of the population.

2. They can target a group of people they know will give a specific response.

3. Pollsters can structure a question a specific way to illicit a specific response.

4. Pollsters can disregard any responses they deem undesirable.
18 posted on 11/13/2007 5:45:28 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: ansel12

This is the same BS story. Romney hired (legally) a company and it is illegal to check the immigration status of those employees. It seems some people are desperate if this is all they can do. I don’t check the immigration status of my pizza deliverymen either.


19 posted on 11/13/2007 5:46:36 PM PST by tompster76
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To: Man50D

uh huh.


20 posted on 11/13/2007 5:49:15 PM PST by plain talk
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To: rogue yam

Fred probably would leave it up to the states. That’s his answer for everything.


21 posted on 11/13/2007 5:49:42 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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To: tompster76

All these candidates need to be exposed on the illegal alien issue and other issues. Too much dancing around already, but in terms of which candidates can appeal to red states that actually vote Republican in general elections, I think it’s between Romney and Thompson, once voters are clear on where all candidates stand on key issues.

I think this country club Republican strategy where blue states nominate through the primaries a candidate (Rudy) the red states will have to elect in November of 2008 is a recipe for disaster.


22 posted on 11/13/2007 5:52:13 PM PST by Will88
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To: Saundra Duffy
Fred probably would leave it up to the states. That’s his answer for everything.

Fred has already given his position and, no, that is not it. But I suspect you knew that already.

23 posted on 11/13/2007 5:55:30 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Travis McGee

“Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority,” Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.”

Just the sort of sentiment one can expect from guilt-ridden white guys, or those who think American residency or citizenship is a gift they personally have to offer the world’s poor.

We don’t need those sentiments in positions of leadership.


24 posted on 11/13/2007 5:57:23 PM PST by Will88
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To: tompster76

“This is the same BS story. Romney hired (legally) a company and it is illegal to check the immigration status of those employees.”


Romney hired a shady landscaping business that did not pay taxes and employed Central American illegals. In all those years Romney knew those foreign, non English speaking men, that lived a life of working for cash and avoiding the IRS, yet he never suspicioned that they may be illegal.

Romney was not required to continue to employ those landscapers for 10 years and to recommend them to other people.

For those of us that know of the world of illegals you won’t be able to sell us the impossibility of picking and choosing who you make your long term relationships with.

I don’t tolerate illegals working at my home or business, or even for my subs, this is like all questions related to Romney, there is always the uncomfortable truths.


25 posted on 11/13/2007 6:00:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: tompster76
Public Wants Illegals to Go Home, Enforcement, No Immigration Increase.

It's the number one issue relating to our Homeland security and sovernity. Listen up, candidates.

sw

26 posted on 11/13/2007 6:16:17 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (It's Illegal immigration, Stupid)
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To: tompster76

It could simply be that Freddie doesn’t have the pro illegal record that Rudy and Huck have.


27 posted on 11/13/2007 6:29:53 PM PST by libbylu (Mitt 2008)
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To: ansel12

Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


28 posted on 11/13/2007 6:31:26 PM PST by libbylu (Mitt 2008 and 2012)
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To: tompster76
Mitt attacking someone on illegal immegration, ROFLOL, What doe he say? LOL
29 posted on 11/13/2007 6:56:50 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: tompster76; Spiff; Reaganesque; restornu; lonevoice; Canticle_of_Deborah; CheyennePress; TheLion; ..
Mitt has enormous credibility on this issue since he denied driver's licenses to illegals in Massachusetts way back in 2003.

Governor Romney opposed efforts to give driver's licenses to illegal aliens. "Those who are here illegally should not receive tacit support from our government that gives an indication of legitimacy," the governor said, echoing arguments that opponents have voiced in the Commonwealth and in other states considering similar license measures. "If they are here illegally, they should not get driver's licenses," he said. (Scott S. Greenberger, "Romney Stand Dims Chances Of License For Undocumented," The Boston Globe, 10/28/2003)

Governor Romney vetoed an outside section of the 2005 state budget that would have permitted illegal aliens to pay the same in-state tuition rate paid by Massachusetts citizens at state public colleges and universities. (Office Of The Governor, "Romney Signs $22.402B Fiscal Year 2005 'No New Tax' Budget," Press Release, 6/25/2004)

Sheriff Joe Endorses Mitt -- fellow Massachusettsan(is that a word?) -- Scroll Down for Video

30 posted on 11/13/2007 11:50:06 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Common sense conservatives UNITED behind Mitt 2 defeat Rudy and then Hillary)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Thank you for the update!


31 posted on 11/13/2007 11:55:59 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: Will88

“Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority,” Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.”

The pathetic cry of the soon-to-be extinct.


32 posted on 11/14/2007 5:09:16 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: indylindy
Here is how it breaks down for me, personally speaking with these guys and myself in the general election. Your mileage may vary. If the nominee is Hitlery or Obama or Edwards or whomever on the Democrat side, and, on the GOP side,

GIULIANI: Third Party Conservative

McCAIN: Third Party Conservative

HUCKABEE: Third Party Conservative

ROMNEY: Third Party Conservative

THOMPSON: Probably Thompson

HUNTER: Hunter

TANCREDO: Tancredo

PAUL: Probably Paul

33 posted on 11/14/2007 5:42:30 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Well, you seem to be intent on suicide, since the only people you will vote for probably won’t get the nominaton.


34 posted on 11/14/2007 7:46:40 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Wow... The only one that’s a deal breaker for me is Giuliani. I’ll admit some of the others aren’t great, and I’d have to cover my eyes pulling that lever. You can vote for who you want, of course, and we’ve already compromised more than enough with the GOP, but I don’t think the other candidates will do the irreversible damage to conservative influence that Giuliani would.


35 posted on 11/14/2007 8:57:29 AM PST by COgamer
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


36 posted on 11/14/2007 9:07:06 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: tompster76

If my pizza delivery man spoke no English, you can be darn tootin I’d be reporting the company to www.wehirealiens.com for suspected hiring of illegal aliens. I’d also let the company know I’d done so. I wouldn’t ignore it for years while greeting the delivery man in Spanish, as the Romney’s did their landscapers.


37 posted on 11/14/2007 1:17:50 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Support Duncan Hunter in YOUR State....http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
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To: gubamyster

Mitt bump!


38 posted on 11/15/2007 4:27:26 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: tompster76

Personally, I think Mitt Romney is our best choice to defeat Hillary and company.


39 posted on 11/15/2007 4:28:30 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: tompster76
The Council of Foreign Relations summary of Huckabee on Immigration tells us all we need to know:

Immigration

The former Arkansas governor has openly sympathized with the needs of illegal immigrants. He has advocated prenatal care for pregnant immigrants and has proposed a scholarship program for illegal immigrants who graduate from Arkansas high schools (Arkansas News Bureau). He also criticized a 2005 federal immigration raid (AP) in Arkansas. Huckabee has expressed support for amnesty for illegal immigrants under some conditions. In an interview with ABC-TV’s George Stephanopoulos, he said, “We should have a process where people can pay the penalties, step up and accept responsibility for not being here legally.” He added: “The objective is not to be punitive. The objective is to make things right.” He has also expressed support for some type of barrier along the border with Mexico.


40 posted on 11/15/2007 4:38:40 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Bump!


41 posted on 11/15/2007 4:39:54 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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