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If Harper can fix the Senate he's a constitutional magician
www.enterstageright.com ^ | November 12, 2007 | Link Byfield

Posted on 11/13/2007 8:49:30 PM PST by Reform Canada

If Harper can fix the Senate he's a constitutional magician

By Link Byfield web posted November 12, 2007

It's odd how the issue of reforming the Senate keeps coming back. But not surprising.

Canadian SenateThe Senate is the great Unfinished Business of Confederation. It should have been settled 140 years ago.

Now it looks like Stephen Harper's Conservatives are angling to fight a national election on it.

Unfortunately, the politics have become truly Byzantine. Everything about the Canadian Senate is paradoxical and deceptive.

Conservative Senator Hugh Segal says he has the blessing of the Prime Minister to introduce a motion in the Senate calling for a referendum on whether the Senate should be abolished. This referendum would occur with the next national election.

Paradox 1: Sen. Segal himself does not want the Senate abolished – in fact he's a longstanding champion of reform. He may just want the Liberal Senate majority to defeat his motion in the Upper House, to show once again how obstructionist and undemocratic they are.

Because meanwhile, Jack Layton and the NDP (who have always wanted the Senate abolished) plan to introduce the same motion in the Commons, and the minority-government Conservatives, it is rumored, will ensure it passes.

Paradox 2: the Tories do not want the Senate abolished. They just want to make Senate reform the main issue of the next election campaign.

Paradox 3: it won't matter which way the referendum goes, because Parliament lacks the power to shut down the Senate. But either way, a referendum enables a majority Conservative government to open the whole constitutional issue of the Senate with the provinces.

The Constitution requires that most provincial governments agree to reform the Senate, or to vaporize it.

Paradox 4: provincial consent is required because the Senate is supposed to be the representative of the provinces in Parliament. Not that it has ever been. But the Constitution plainly states that's why it exists.

Paradox 5: The provinces themselves no longer want the Senate to speak for them. Provincial premiers long ago came to fancy themselves the defenders of their provincial powers and interests. It's a satisfying delusion on their part. Except for Quebec, Ottawa works them all like play-dough. Ottawa has the money, Ottawa has the spending power.

Paradox 6: the final absurdity. We have a Prime Minister who wants to give the provinces the Senate, gift-wrapped in ribbons – a chamber whose constitutional powers are almost equal to the House of Commons – and the premiers are refusing to take it.

Except for Alberta, not one provincial government is willing (so far) to hold Senate elections. Harper has asked them to and they won't. Even though there are already 12 Senate vacancies, and in two years over one-quarter of the seats in the Upper House will be empty, neither Harper nor the premiers intend to fill them.

Paradox 7: And for a simple reason. The premiers do not want provincially-elected senators supplanting them as federal spokesmen for their provinces, and Harper does not believe the Prime Minister should be filling a House of Parliament with partisan lackeys whose constitutional purpose is to hold him, when necessary, in check.

This bizarre situation signals something important.

It means that Harper, if he gets his majority, fully intends to reopen the Constitution, and will drive his own constitutional agenda just as relentlessly as Pierre Trudeau a generation ago.

And I say good. What Trudeau screwed up, Harper can fix.

Link Byfield is an Alberta senator-elect and chairman of the Citizens Centre. The Centre promotes the principles of personal freedom and responsible government.


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; constitution; harper; senatereform

1 posted on 11/13/2007 8:49:33 PM PST by Reform Canada
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To: fanfan; GMMAC; padre35

Canada Ping


2 posted on 11/13/2007 8:50:23 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Reform Canada

So the Canadian Senate functions like the old version of the UK House of Lords? no elections just appointments and hereditary titles being granted seats?


3 posted on 11/13/2007 8:56:50 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: padre35

All Senators are appointed by the Prime Minister, no hereditary appointments. The Liberals have controlled the Senate for something like 90 of the last 95 years even though they have been booted from office a number of times. The only reason the Tories held the senate for a few years in the late 1980s and early 1990s is because PM Mulroney used a clause in the Constitution that allows the PM to stack the Senate with extra seats when the Senate refuses to pass legislation. When Harper gets a majority I am really looking forward to Constitutional Reform.


4 posted on 11/13/2007 9:22:21 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Reform Canada

Second chambers are difficult to get right, and from what I’ve heard the Canadian Senate is one of the more difficult.

A second chamber which works well is a very useful system indeed - the old-style House of Lords was excellent at that - but unfortunately where a chamber is unelected it is too easy for folk to run around wailing “democratic legitimacy”. Yet when the chamber is elected it becomes difficult to give it lesser powers than the other chamber.

Where there is no established heretidary basis for the second chamber, I have a fondness for indirect election (such as used to be practiced for the U.S. Senate).


5 posted on 11/14/2007 3:24:27 AM PST by FloreatIacobus
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To: Reform Canada; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; ...

6 posted on 11/14/2007 4:34:57 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: FloreatIacobus; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

I would like to see a Senate that is elected but the senators for each province would be elected at the time of the Provincial general election. In the event of a vacancy, the by-election would be under Provincial control, not Federal control. That would make it regionally responsive as a counter balance to the rep-by-pop House which is heavily weighted in favour of Ontario and Quebec because of their large populations.


7 posted on 11/14/2007 5:43:20 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

The media discusses the professorial Stephane Dion and is impressed by Harvardian Ignatieff, but persistently underrates the brilliant academic Harper, who appears to be preparing to conduct an upcoming honours seminar in Canadian Constitutional Law for the entire nation.

If anyone can undo the Trudeaupian sabotage of our Canadian institutions, it is Harper, truly a man for our time.


8 posted on 11/14/2007 6:54:37 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: headsonpikes

Harper is truly a giant among men, in more ways than one. And thankfully he is an economist first and foremost.


9 posted on 11/14/2007 9:53:46 AM PST by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: Reform Canada

I’ll be really surprised if he pulls it off. I think this is more about showing a) he is serious about reforming it and b) he needs a majority government to reform it.


10 posted on 11/14/2007 11:12:20 AM PST by Grig
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To: Reform Canada
The provinces don't want it and the best thing to do is to abolish the Senate. Canadian provinces admitted to the Confederation after the original six created it in 1867 came with one house. Ontario and Quebec abolished their upper house. There's no need for an unelected body of political hacks in a democratic age in Canada.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 11/14/2007 4:25:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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