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Giuliani Catches Clinton In Ohio, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds
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Posted on 11/15/2007 9:34:48 AM PST by LS

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To: LS
Clinton loses to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 47 - 38 percent.

So why is Rootie in the title??? Mitt beats her big time.

21 posted on 11/15/2007 11:12:43 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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No, this is an OH poll. It means that in OH, McCain beats Hillary, but Fred and Romney would lose.

I read it as rootie is a toss up against hillary in Ohio but Mitt romeny trounces her. Thus, I could care less that rootie pulls even and think the story headline should be romney bets candidate for GOP to face Hillary in Ohio.

22 posted on 11/15/2007 11:15:38 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Read the article again. You’ve got it backwards.


23 posted on 11/15/2007 11:18:26 AM PST by Chunga (Fred Thompson '08)
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thx, got it


24 posted on 11/15/2007 11:22:25 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

You got it backwards. Hillary beats Mitt badly.


25 posted on 11/15/2007 11:24:41 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary

This is Ohio. Hillary will not win Arizona. Trust me.


26 posted on 11/15/2007 5:46:27 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; therut; Laissez-faire capitalist; MARTIAL MONK; Zhang Fei; napscoordinator; ...
The McCain List.
Common sense conservatism


Clinton loses (Ohio) to Arizona Sen. John McCain 46 - 42 percent
27 posted on 11/15/2007 5:52:09 PM PST by Norman Bates
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These numbers aren't matching up well: SurveyUSA Ohio (11/15). Note Rudy-Hillary and Rudy-Obama.
28 posted on 11/15/2007 6:05:47 PM PST by Norman Bates
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I'm less pessimistic about Ohio than I have been in the past year or two. Taft is history and there is no gubernatorial or senate seat at stake to help polarize the electorate. The polls show Ohioans undecided and frankly unenthusiastic about anyone--which is good for us, as it suggests lackluster turnout among the sociocrats.

That McCain beats Clinton fairly handily at this point suggests a reservoir of conservative support that could be tapped by the right candidate. Ohioans are subject to liberal domestic appeals but tend to be a bit more serious about the international scene. As Iraq improves and antiwar sentiment remains muted, I expect to see Ohio back in play in 2008.

29 posted on 11/15/2007 8:25:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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We in Ohio have not yet begun to fight !!!! We will beat Michigan on Saturday then move on to beat Hillary in 2008 !!! Yes, Taft was a bummer and an embarrassment, but we won’t let that millstone drag us down. The whole state hated Taft! Ohio’s roots are Conservative and we will work until the polls close in 2008 just like we did in 2004. Ohio WILL go Rebublican in 2008.


30 posted on 11/15/2007 8:36:08 PM PST by Martins kid
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Yes, this SurveyUSA is slightly lower than the previous polls out of OH, but still within the MOE.

It is interesting that in many (not all) state polls, Obama or Edwards does better than Hillary against many Republican candidates. I don't think either has a chance against her---but it shows how many people will vote against Hillary rather than for our guys.

31 posted on 11/16/2007 4:33:50 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

Bad news for Hilldabeast. Like Gore catching her in the polls, maybe the polls should be more concerned with the one she’ll actually be running against.


32 posted on 11/16/2007 4:39:31 AM PST by alrea (Surveillance for national security: bad. Surveillance for election: good)
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I can't see one primary that McCain can win, except, perhaps, SC. Maybe, on the outside, MI if Mitt plummets. Other than SC, Fred doesn't have a single primary he can win in the first 6-7. It's all about delegates.

Rudy has played a brilliant game. He's letting Mitt or whoever have IA, Mitt have NH, while making sure he gets #2 or #3 and rakes in a few delegates each time. Then he swoops in for FL, CA, IL, NY, CT, PA, NJ, RI and it's pretty much over. McCain can get AZ, Fred or McCain can get CO, and one of them can get AL and GA---but Rudy will still be coming in #2 in most of those.

Romney has put all his eggs in the "momentum" basket: he's thinking that if he wins IA, NH, and possibly SC, he can win MI and people will rally to him. It worked for Kerry.

33 posted on 11/16/2007 4:47:50 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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Rudy has played a brilliant game, but Romney is playing one now. Rudy must be hoping for Huckabee to catch him in IA, and to try to grab NH for himself to kill Romney’s momentum. Depending on what happens I can still see McCain taking NH (unpolled independents) and using that to put him over the top in SC and MI (states where he already has large but dormant support), and using that momentum to run Super Tuesday.


34 posted on 11/16/2007 8:25:10 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: LS

Giuliani catches “Clinton”, and is rushed to the emergency room.


35 posted on 11/16/2007 8:30:36 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Norman Bates

I don’t see Romney getting past the first four. He isn’t polling well in GA, AL, NM-—other places where a #2 or #3 finish would be necessary. And he won’t do nearly as well as Rudy in NY, CA, CT, PA.


36 posted on 11/16/2007 9:00:40 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Norman Bates

This is interesting.

By my count now, McCain wins the election as the nominee. He is winning outside the MOE in many key states, and ahead within the MOE in states like OH.

And that’s before the “I hate McCain” Conservatives cast their nose-pinched votes.


37 posted on 11/16/2007 11:04:43 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC; LS
New Survey USA Iowa poll out this morning. McCain is the only one beating Hillary (48-44), which is shocking because I wrote Iowa off for everyone. This with Hillary having a 10 times cash on hand advantage over McCain. Imagine a John McCain with $300 million plus of party backed funding next year. Unstoppable.
38 posted on 11/16/2007 11:21:56 AM PST by Norman Bates
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Well, McCain is an enigma. He wins all the SurveyUSA's head-to-head polls with Hillary---but he can't seem to get ahead in a Republican primary state. Depending on the poll, he's third or fourth in IA, third or fourth in SC, well behind Rudy and Romney in MI and FL. In other words, he has the Fred Thompson problem---he can't find a state he can win any delegates in.

And I keep harping on this: Rudy is running #2 in almost every state where he's not winning, meaning he'll be getting lots of delegates even when he loses. But Romney, McCain, and Thompson are all spread all over the map in the states they aren't winning. (McCain won't come in better than 3rd in NY, CT, RI, NJ, and some other RINO states, for example).

So I ask the same question of McCain that I asked of Fred: where will he get his delegates. I know where Rudy will get his, and almost certainly enough to win.

39 posted on 11/16/2007 2:25:09 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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