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1 posted on 11/15/2007 4:29:05 PM PST by radar101
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None of the recruits was seriously injured.

And what is Al-Quaida going to do to them?

2 posted on 11/15/2007 4:29:57 PM PST by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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Sergeant Glass was not disloyal; he did not commit malingering; he did not engage in adultery; but he did get too enthusiastic about training recruits. He crossed the line, in the best judgment of his fellow Marines. Man up, Glass: take your punishment like a Marine, and you may be able to come back.

TC


4 posted on 11/15/2007 4:45:06 PM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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Glass was accused of ordering one recruit to jump headfirst into a trash can and then pushing him farther into the container.

How is this is the wrong behavior for a Marine DI?

5 posted on 11/15/2007 4:47:01 PM PST by lowbridge
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What an effin crock of sh&t.

Wonder which congresscritter's kid whined? No integrity at all. This guy did nothing compared to what MCRD was when I went through.

Give the little bastard that ratted a blanket party.

6 posted on 11/15/2007 4:49:40 PM PST by eldoradude (Think for yourself!)
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Glass was accused of ordering one recruit to jump headfirst into a trash can and then pushing him farther into the container.

How will jumping into a garbage can make them into better marines? (I'm not being a smart-ass, I genuinely don't see the training benefit.) This seems a bit more like BS frat-house hazing than the professional military training that the USMC should aspire to.

8 posted on 11/15/2007 5:00:12 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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Ridiculous.Today’s “abuse” was SOP 40 years ago in all service branches.


11 posted on 11/15/2007 5:22:29 PM PST by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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My original three Drill Instructors were replaced at the end of 1st phase and court marshalled because one sh!+bird couldn’t hack it and managed to get a complaint heard. Drill instructors are usually the best Marines, and it is disgraceful when officers who have never been through recruit training decide to play politics with them in order to further their own selfish careers.


16 posted on 11/15/2007 5:47:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: radar101; lowbridge; Triggerhippie

At the first sign of incoming fire you may need to do things a lot nastier and more innovative than jumping into a garbage can to stay alive, and then return fire. I often worked with Marines during my three Vietnam campaigns in the Navy. I told my son Marine Corps training would be brutally hard, but he still became a rifleman and member of Presidential Security Forces. His training at School of Infantry, Security School and Guard Academy only got harder. He completed the “Crucible” at basic with a flesh-eating bacteria tearing at his legs and feet. At Guard Academy they sprayed a special Marine blend of pepper spray into his eyes, before he had to disable the other Marine attempting to take his pistol away from him. The only way to win in combat is to operate on the edge of what is possible, and way beyond what civilians would consider possible. Recruit training should shock people into ways of thinking and acting, which never occurred to them before.


19 posted on 11/15/2007 6:07:57 PM PST by Retain Mike
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'Glass spent two tours in Iraq as a dog handler before attending drill instructor school, from which he graduated with honors. The abuses occurred shortly after his graduation, during his first two months as a drill instructor. They came to light only after he beat a 19-year-old over the head with a tent pole because the recruit could not remember the combination to his foot locker.

Wonder how Glass managed to make it through the psych eval. Going off the deep end like that so early in his tour is bizarre. Several somebodies in DI school maybe let one slip through the crack that they shouldn't have. I'd bet that if you could pour over his jacket from DI school you'd find signs that this was a possibility.

'Of four drill instructors assigned to the 40-man platoon, Glass was the least experienced and the so-called "kill hat," Marine slang for the one assigned to mete out punishment. All four were relieved of duty when the abuse allegations surfaced.'

Sounds like too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

'The two most experienced face criminal charges, and the "third hat" was reduced from sergeant to corporal and is no longer a drill instructor. Two officers and two noncommissioned officers with supervisory responsibility for the four drill instructors were relieved of duty and reassigned.'

It would be interesting to find out what Battalion this took place in. Sounds like the Series Commander, Assistant Series Commander and Series Gunny dropped the ball. Although Salinas is apparently looking to make examples of a lot of DIs.

Over the past year, “There always seems to be four or five drill instructors on the docket,” said a Marine officer familiar with the Glass case.

“Some of it is because Brig. Gen. Angela Salinas is looking for abuse and some of it is because . . . there is more abuse,” said the officer, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals by superiors.

25 posted on 11/15/2007 7:53:29 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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In my basic we had 2 DIs fighting each other and they were removed. I am not sure where they went to. Also we had one DI who said not to worry and complain about our uniform issue, that it would be the right size, and I almost lost a foot and had to be recycled because of that BS. There are some very incompetent DIs and some very competent ones. Some of them definitely do not need to be there.
37 posted on 11/15/2007 10:17:40 PM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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