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No saluting for soldiers in theatre of war
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| 2007-11-16
| Bill Graveland
Posted on 11/16/2007 7:16:21 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive
They had that rule in WWII
dumb ass reporters
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posted on
11/16/2007 7:50:44 AM PST
by
Charlespg
(Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
To: Clive
In previous eras, marksmen would target opposing officers, often easily identified by the different uniforms they wore. Killing one of the leaders was an easy way to demoralize and confuse enemy troops.At New Orleans in January, 1815, Tennessee and Kentucky riflemen killed all three British generals present on the field. By the time the reseve commander arrived, the route was already on.
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posted on
11/16/2007 7:58:59 AM PST
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: Clive; GMMAC; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...
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posted on
11/16/2007 7:59:16 AM PST
by
fanfan
("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
To: PapaBear3625
They didnt salute in the field in Nam either, for the same reason. Nothing new, except to journalists In a combat zone the journalists are the ones who should be saluted to draw fire from snipers.
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posted on
11/16/2007 7:59:20 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Government is the hired help - not the boss. When politicians forget that they must be fired.)
To: metesky
reseve
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posted on
11/16/2007 8:01:08 AM PST
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: Charlespg
"dumb ass reporters" I think in combat zones, saluting should be reserved exclusively for reporters...
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posted on
11/16/2007 8:06:54 AM PST
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: Clive
The Navy never salutes indoors because a cover isn’t worn indoors and the Navy doesn’t salute without a cover.
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posted on
11/16/2007 8:15:34 AM PST
by
em2vn
To: Clive
So, the article says that these other countries’ military personnel don’t salute on the FOB? That is odd. We don’t salute while out in-sector, but on the FOB, it’s basically like any other military base, except you get mortared a lot more often, and you carry your personal weapon with you everywhere you go.
To: xsrdx
Well for their information - the covered terrace area that surrounds Walter Reed Army Med Center (WRAMC) is also a “No Hat, No Salute Area” the initial reason for that rule is there are so many Docs/nurses(officers) that you’d break your arm just walking out. However, since I’ve been down to WRAMC, given the neighborhood that surrounds it, maybe they too are afraid of snipers.
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posted on
11/16/2007 8:17:34 AM PST
by
SAMS
("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
To: PapaBear3625
They didnt salute in the field in Nam either, for the same reason. Nothing new, except to journalists That's what I was just thinking as I read the article. Journalists have to be retrained after lunch or dinner much less after each war/battle.
Ah for another Ernie Pyle!
Nam Vet
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posted on
11/16/2007 8:23:05 AM PST
by
Nam Vet
(Timely reporting from Attila's right flank)
To: BluH2o
I’ve always thought that folks need to be extra careful when correcting others for missing a salute. It is a matter of discipline, so blatant disregard should be corrected. Ideally, an fficer shouldn’t have to do the spot correction. Usually, an NCO would witness the offense and take care of it. Of course, sometimes you just miss it.
Generally, if someone gets inside my zone and hasnt saluted, I initiate it
so, thats not the protocol, but I figure it is a greeting and a sign of respect
Ill give both to any other service member gladly.
I was at Norflok Naval base recently and walked past a CAPT and CDR. Our Air Force rank is bigger and on the opposite side of our hats, so I have to look very carefully. We walk with the higher ranking person to the right. So, as I approached, I looked at the guy on the right, saw he was an O-5 too, verbally greeted them, and moved on.
The O-5 then proceeded to read me the riot act with the O-6 glaring at me. I snapped one up, apologized and excused myself. Ive been in this business for 26 years and didnt need the lecture. Ah
.what are you gonna do?
Does anyone know is the Navy does the rank to the right when walking?
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posted on
11/16/2007 8:34:05 AM PST
by
TankerKC
(You don't have to believe everything you think.)
To: PapaBear3625
***They didnt salute in the field in Nam either,***
Yet, who can forget that cartoon in THE OVERSEAS WEEKLY, of a soldier helping a wounded comrade and an officer pointing to him and demanding from another officer..”Why isn’t that soldier saluting me!”
To: SAMS
Maybe somebody can calibrate me here, but I recall hearing that the big open courtyard in the middle of the Pentagon is also a “no hat / no salute” area.
Again, merely for practical reasons. With so many of various ranks milling around it would look like everybody doing jumping jacks.
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posted on
11/16/2007 8:52:18 AM PST
by
Ramius
(Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
To: StarCMC
>>>believed by some to go back to the Middle Ages when a knight would raise the visor on his helmet and expose his face to the view of another.
I think there was a Canteen thread on the origin of the salute.
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posted on
11/16/2007 9:00:22 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
To: Ramius
Maybe somebody can calibrate me here, but I recall hearing that the big open courtyard in the middle of the Pentagon is also a no hat / no salute area. Correct. Also, the area outside the doors at corridor 8 out to the Pentagon Conference center is a no hat/no salute area.
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posted on
11/16/2007 9:34:39 AM PST
by
TankerKC
(You don't have to believe everything you think.)
To: Clive; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...
We used to call saluting or wearing bright rank insignia, even in a training environment, a SNIPER CHECK!
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posted on
11/16/2007 2:57:42 PM PST
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: SandRat
Logic is a good thing.
:-)
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posted on
11/16/2007 3:10:55 PM PST
by
fanfan
("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
To: Clive; xzins
Saluting in a combat zone is commonly referred to as a Sniper Check.
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posted on
11/16/2007 3:23:16 PM PST
by
Gamecock
(Gamecock: Declared anathema by the Council of Trent!)
To: Clive
Reminds me of the funniest episode of MASH. Harry Morgan {before he took the role as Potter} was General Steele and about a brick shy of a load. He and I think Hawkeye were in a war zone and Steele insisted he be saluted. At the instant the hand went up so came the bullets. Seriously though if a Zero’s ego needs stroked in such a dangerous manner under those conditions well then they have a leadership issue. My guess is 999 out of a 1000 do not.
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posted on
11/16/2007 3:40:26 PM PST
by
cva66snipe
(Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
To: Gamecock
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posted on
11/16/2007 3:52:21 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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