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Interesting take on the water crisis. It doesn't say much about nuclear power plants except one mention that makes it appear that they actually use more water than coal-fired plants.
1 posted on 11/18/2007 4:46:30 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Shut down the newspaper and there will not be a need for electricity. This article sounds like a bunch of falsehoods as the steam is put back into the air and falls back as rain in some location so the water is recycled as is ALL water except for the 20 to 40 tons per minute, of new water, that arrives from outer space.


2 posted on 11/18/2007 4:53:32 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The real question here is not water use but waste heat, and how to make a profit from it.
Most of the energy from fossil and nuclear ends up as waste heat before its end use..


4 posted on 11/18/2007 5:40:49 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (Life is Good!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Turn out the lights, the party’s over.


5 posted on 11/18/2007 5:41:45 AM PST by SouthTexas
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It doesn't say much about nuclear power plants except one mention that makes it appear that they actually use more water than coal-fired plants.

IIRC, Georgia only has one nuclear reactor for electricity production and that is Plant Hatch in Baxley. Whatever Georgia Power doesn't get from it's own generation facilities they probably buy from TVA, Carolina Power and others.

One thing that is never mentioned in these sorts of articles is the fact that the primary uses for Lakes Lanier and Lake Alatoona were for power generation and flood control. Water supply and recreation were secondary and the local state, county and municiple leaders in 1957 fully agreed to those terms with the Corps of Engineers. The powers that be following them allowed unbridled building for over 25 years in and around Atlanta without any concern as to adding additional water reservoir supply to ease the burdon on the existing supply sources.

Although this water shortage was initially caused by the drought, it has been made far worse because the "planners" in the Atlanta Regional Planning Commission sat back and did nothing for 25 years while 5 million people moved into the area. Now, gooberner Perdue acts like divine intervention is the only way to solve the crisis. Funny, I didn't hear any politco's clamoring for new reservoirs to be built 3 years ago when Georgia was receiving record rainfall. Ya get what's ya pays for, gooberner Sonny.....

6 posted on 11/18/2007 5:48:01 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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"It doesn't say much about nuclear power plants except one mention that makes it appear that they actually use more water than coal-fired plants."

A heat exchanger is a heat exchanger. A nuke plant, a coal plant, or a natural gas plant operating at the same temperature all require the same cooling.

But the whole premise of the article is BS, as all that water IS returned to the local watershed. The ANSWER to the problem (which the eco-fanatics probably won't let happen), is to build more and larger reservoirs.

7 posted on 11/18/2007 5:58:12 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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It seems to me that simply running the vented steam through X length of pipe with a heat sink will return it immediately to water. What a dumb waste when there is a shortage.


10 posted on 11/18/2007 6:28:57 AM PST by Malsua
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Cooling water used by nuclear power plants goes back into the cooling water source (like lakes). The water isn’t sucked up and vaporized like this article implies.
If utilities were using up (and not able to reuse) this much water, there would have been a lot of screaming a lot sooner.
Go shut down the hydroelectric dams in GA, to keep the water from just flowing downstream. It would have more impact on their water supply.


12 posted on 11/18/2007 6:44:00 AM PST by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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"A Southern Co. coal-fired plant in Florida or its Farley nuclear plant in Alabama may put at least half of the water used back into the Chattahoochee River. But that water isn't going back to Lake Lanier."

Instead of putting it back into the Chattahoochee River, why don't they just route it back through Atlanta or Montgomery or Mobile or Tallahassee or whatever?

And if they've got a nuclear plant in Alabama, why can't they make electricity from uranium or something like that, and why do they need all that water?

Maybe they could collect the steam in a gigantic distiller. That would purify the water too.

13 posted on 11/18/2007 8:12:09 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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"Meanwhile, policymakers such as Gov. Sonny Perdue focus public outrage about the drought on environmental laws protecting mollusks in Florida, rather than the region's growing demand for power and its impact on water."

These policymakers would exhibit a stroke of genius if they would abolish Georgia's absurd "Department of Natural Resources" (wasn't that established by Jimmy Carter? That speaks volumes right there) and use the money saved to discover and establish new sources of power and useful water.

14 posted on 11/18/2007 8:20:41 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The Chattahoochee River’s western bank is the Alabama/Georgia border. Alabama has three or four nuclear power plants that need cooling. Point, none.


17 posted on 11/18/2007 8:45:58 AM PST by Broker (Talaga!)
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Blah blah blah,,, we need rain!

Build the desal plants.

Build another desal plant.

Put the same restrictions on the protected “mussels” that humans have! Which is ‘No Outside Watering’!
Where are mussels? OUTSIDE! :-)

Seed the clouds!

Take a sponge bath in the washing machine that you filled with dish washing rinse water.
Rinse off the sponge, wash clothes.
Collect rinse water to flush toilets.

In the dark. (hydro-electric too) :-)


18 posted on 11/18/2007 8:58:22 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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Per unit of energy output, yes, a nuclear plant uses more water than a coal plant.


30 posted on 11/18/2007 6:55:07 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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The same idiots don’t mention that without the dams there would be no power and the people would just watch the streams dry up as they carry their buckets back and forth to the muddy creek.

They can’t make it rain.


45 posted on 11/20/2007 1:20:23 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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