Ron Paul Courts 9-11 Troofers on Alex Jones Show...Again (Paging Ministry of Silly Explanations)

The Jawa Report ^ | November 21, 2007

[dirtboy]

I'm amazed that the terrorists flying the planes were able to direct the planes into the exact spots where the charges were placed to start the building collapses (and at two different levels on the two towers - an amazing feat of aeronautics). And the wires and charges were so well-made that they all survived the impact from the planes and the resulting fires to work perfectly in unison to initiate the collapse.

Man, who says Americans can't manufacture quality goods any longer?

[mnehring]

After calling Paul's supporters "terrorists" I don't think Paul would be going on Beck's show anytime soon.

Yet Jones calles our troops terrorists all the time and Paul has no problem being pals with him.

[thecabal]

After calling Paul's supporters "terrorists" I don't think Paul would be going on Beck's show anytime soon.

But why not? I thought his primary concern was getting his message out to anyone who would listen, since he's the underdog. I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly certain that Glenn Beck has a larger audience than Alex Jones.

The funny thing is that he has no problem going on the show of a man who essentially preaches that the President (and his administration) is a terrorist.

[Iconoclast2]

This link does not explain the pools of molten steel either. Lots of highly qualified scientists build complex models that can prove anything that is built into them, which is why we have a great global warming swindle underway. I don’t claim to know what happened. But those that do ought to be able to explain the evidence that is there. When they do not try to do so, it does not build my confidence in their claims.

[Hornitos]

There is an economy to all of creation, except in the minds of the deluded.

[Lead Moderator]

This needs to be kept a secret.

Hate to say it, but I think the cat's out of the bag on this one. With Iconoclast2 on the case, the secret was bound to get out, just like the fake moonlanding we staged. Remember that one? Brings back memories.

[dirtboy]

When they do not try to do so, it does not build my confidence in their claims.

Well, just so you can be satisfied, the fedgov should fund experiments to erect several 100+ story buildings and then collapese them so they can come up with an ironclad theory as to how molten steel forms after a large building collapse.

[Iconoclast2]

Of course the fires weakened the steel. Of course the fires could have weakened the steel to the point where it could bend. Of course that could have been enough to cause a collapse, though the buildings were designed by experts to have no such thing occur, and had suffered at least one large fire before.

But what could create large pools of molten steel, not just bent steel? There are pictures of some beams with portions that are described as “vaporized”.

[OCCASparky]

I’m sure that his “giving up” after he loses the nomination won’t sit well with his legion of net.followers, though, so who knows.

I've already run into a few of the "true believers" like Kelly Halldorson up here in NH who has publicly stated she'll write him in if he's not nominated.

As they said in Cool Hand Luke, "Some folks you jus cain't reach."

[dirtboy]

But is it LIHOP or MIHOP? Or just Frooty pancakes at IHOP?

[SJackson]

Knock it off. We all know the government did it. The folks at Popular Mechanics should have consulted with Iconoclast2.

LM, you underestimate what may be a serious breakthrough for FR.

We have been instructed to "follow the money".

A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared on 9/11.

Da vault, 3,000 square feet, about the size of a storefront in Indiana.

Multiple threads this week on the government confiscation of gold and silver Ron Paul dollars. From a storefront in Indiana.

Handsome, aren't they.

Copper, were there copper pipes in the WTC.

A storefront full of gold and silver, a storefront sized vault of gold and silver.

Follow the money.

Signing off.

Have some work to do for the Kucinich campaign.

[bray]

That was the easy part. The hard part was wiring the explosives w/o anyone knowing or seeing then running the wires to the main demolition boxes miles away w/o security catching on.

Good thing they all went off at once or they would have tipped over rather than pancaking. You would have thought they would have taken out the bottom first but that would have been too obvious, so they staged it. Must be nice living in that world??

Happy Thanksgiving to W and Our Freedom Fighters

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Alex Jones thinks President Bush murdered 3,000 Americans for oil and Israel.

Sorry, Jones doesn't speak for Paul. That's his disgraceful opinion and his alone.

The fact that you aren’t concerned that your candidate of choice is always on his show and is always courting his audience speaks volume about the Paulestinians.

His audience aren't all conspiracy kooks and truthers. As I stated in the previous post, Jones has a diverse base of listeners. The populist, anti-globalist Left, for example. Independents fed up with Hannity & FOX. Jones is nothing more than a leftist Michael Savage. I have more respect for these leftists than I do for the mainstream liberals in the Democrat Party and MSM, as at least they support issues such as our sovereignty and getting out of free trade agreements. But yes, they're wrong on the war and blaming the U.S. for 9/11, and Paul disagrees with them on these points.

Imagine if Obama went on his show. There would be outrage from all corners of the political spectrum. The only reason why nobody really cares about Paul going on the show is because outside of the internet he is virtually unknown.

Because the media knows it futile to even bring it up, and Paul doesn't give a damn about their opinion polls or what they think of him. His record and his integrity speaks for itself. He once recoiled in mock horror & laugh when asked why did he speak to the John Birch Society. Any other Republican would have been apologizing profusely like George Allen.

And it’s laughable to compare Goldwater to Paul. Goldwater didn’t court anti-American and anti-Semitic voters.

Neither does Paul. Goldwater was savaged by "conservatives" in the GOP just as "conservatives" are smearing Paul now. They tried using the same-old guilt-by-association garbage, the obligatory Nazi smear, and other BS. Paul has a link on his campaign website about racism, perhaps you should read it sometimes.

[mnehring]

I’ve seen the so called pools of molten steel videos.. there is no evidence there that if there were actually pools of molten steel (versus, as a fireman said in one video, red hot steel (not pools of molten steel)) what caused it. How many gas lines were broken. If there were pools, how do we know this was pools of structural steel versus thin, easily melted steel that wasn’t heat tempered (such as what is used in filing cabinets, desks, and non-structural construction.) They mean nothing, prove nothing, and just make you look completely uninformed to base an argument on it.

[dirtboy]

But what could create large pools of molten steel, not just bent steel?

Try kinetic energy. An iron meteorite estimated to be 65 feet in diameter created this:

Granted, the materials at the top of the WTC did not reach anything close to the velocity of the meteorite in question. But the amount of material involved was also far greater - and some of it fell over 1,000 feet.

So, in other words, when all that material hit the ground, a lot of the kinetic energy was translated into heat. And then more material piled on top of it, insulating the hottest materials in the center.

[bray]

Not to mention that thing burned for a month underground. Of course there is going to be molton steel in a furnace.

Happy Thanksgiving to W and Our Freedom Fighters

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Yet Jones calles our troops terrorists all the time and Paul has no problem being pals with him.

Jones is just someone Paul infrequently shoots the breeze with. I'm sure privately, Paul will disagree or correct him. They're not exactly golfing buddies or whatever.

[mnehring]

You just said they were friends, now you are saying he is someone Paul infrequently ‘shoots the breeze with’? Get your story straight. I guess he would take part in Jones’ documentaries, such as Matrix of Evil, because he was shooting the breeze? Show me anyone else in the media (if you consider Jones media) Paul and his campaign has done more interviews with or spent more time with?

[SJackson]

Neither does Paul. Goldwater was savaged by "conservatives" in the GOP just as "conservatives" are smearing Paul now. They tried using the same-old guilt-by-association garbage, the obligatory Nazi smear, and other BS.

The BS is what you spout. I don't recall Goldwater being smeared with a nazi smear, it would have been the KKK in those days. And if he were, it's inconceivable to me he wouldn't have spoken out. Of course your contension that he was smeared implies that they supported him, and I seriously doubt that. As you'll note the klucker forebearers of some Paul supporters didn't much like the Goldwaters.

Yeah, Barry Goldwater wouldn't have the courage to condemn the scum that picketed dad's store.

You bet.

[OCCASparky]

Now, would you speak out, and turn against your own preferred candidate (no need to mention who you support, your business, not mine), if the 'troofers' supported him?

If said candidate refused to repudiate and distance him/herself from them? Absolutely. When Reagan heard the Birchers were supporting him, he simply stated, "They may support me, but that doesn't mean I support them."

A simple statement which speaks volumes. Why won't L. Ron do the same? Answer: He **DOES** share their views, otherwise he would have disassociated himself from them and returned said contributions long ago. He would have told Stormfront to take down the Ron Paul logo and threatened legal action were they to keep it up. He's done none of these things.