Posted on 11/22/2007 4:12:01 AM PST by Man50D
According to the DOD, they don’t know if we’re customers or not. They said that they have no way of tracking where or who makes much of our military equipment, parts and supplies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/15/AR2007111502120.html?hpid=sec-nation
Even better.
I can just imagine the melodramatic eulogies fawning over Shugart in the Santa Cruz Senile, Mockery News, Monterey Geraldo, Salinas Commifornian, SC Good Slimes, Coast Weakly, and SF Comical... all by people who have never even been to his house...
“Hunter would be worthy of consideration if he’d advocate the overthrow, violent or otherwise, of the Red Chinese hegemonists and the unfettered elimination of the false “religion” of islam by the same methods. Otherwise, he’s just another politico who’ll submit to the powers-that-be in DC.”
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“Fair-trade” would accomplish the same thing.
Our “free-trade” with China has artificially propped up the Chinese economy, as soon as we throw on even a moderate tariff (righteous) on them, that Communist country would collapse like a wet paper bag.
BTW, some Republicans and Democrats are personally invested on Chinese cheap labor. They are called “Libertarian Rhetoricians.”
Oh, and how do you like Anna Caballero as your state assemblyman? (I might guess your answer.)
Anything new on the KeeleyWatch front???
We let Russia crush themselves under their own weight. China is a lot heavier and would fall a lot faster without us propping them up.
With fair trade China would have two choices. Deal with us on an level field or collapse as fewer and fewer American dollars bouy them up.
Not to suggest something radical here...but what if it wasn’t the Chinese? There are numerous companies and countries out there between the manufacturing point and sales point. I could every easily have a German distribution company that takes the item somewhere in the middle and adds a file. I have no doubt that hard drives are being sold around the country with Trojans loaded...perhaps we ought to stand back for a second and actually look at the infected HD...and really track down the culprit. Somewhere along the search...I might want to consider that our own US government has taken alot of actions over the past five years that I would have considered unethical ten years ago. If our own FBI or Homeland Security folks were doing this...would I still be upset? Thank about that for a moment. The speed which Seagate reacted...makes me think that they already knew something was going on.
Frankly, adding x% of tariff will not make the Chinese economy collapse like a wet paper bag (what flavor of "rhetorician" is that, I wonder?), nor will it make the sourcing of products related to our national security more acceptable. Meaning that, adding x% to the price of an infected portable hard drive will not make it any less infected.
The Taiwanese newspaper that broke this story said the drives were manufactured in Thailand, but Chinese subcontractors were the prime suspects.
“Alan Shugart, co-founder of Seagate was a full blown communist (he admitted so publicly quite a few times) despite his use of and success with capitalism. Seagate was a company based near the communist enclave of Santa Cruz, California.”
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Mistaking Capitalism with free-trade. Capitalism basically means private ownership of property. Communists LOVE free-trade.
Karl Marx in the New-York Daily Tribune 1861
The British Cotton Trade
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1861/10/14.htm
^^^^^^^Here is Karl Marx bitching about the Union blockade of the south, and how he is losing money with the cotton mills in England that were owned by his buddy Friedrich Engels! Friedrich Engels and Marx are limosine-liberal equivalent of today. Friedrich Engels inherited the cotton mills in Manchester from his daddy. Him and Marx (probably homosexuals) ran them together.
“We let Russia crush themselves under their own weight. China is a lot heavier and would fall a lot faster without us propping them up.
With fair trade China would have two choices. Deal with us on an level field or collapse as fewer and fewer American dollars bouy them up.”
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Thats the thing, they can never compete on a level playing field.
You can look up the tariff-rate on Chinese products right here. You can argue that the tariffs should be higher, but you shouldn’t use the term “free trade” (even in quotation marks), as it is generally understood to be the absence of tariffs altogether, or the “mirror” sort of tariffs that Duncan Hunter favors.
Frankly, adding x% of tariff will not make the Chinese economy collapse like a wet paper bag (what flavor of “rhetorician” is that, I wonder?), nor will it make the sourcing of products related to our national security more acceptable. Meaning that, adding x% to the price of an infected portable hard drive will not make it any less infected.
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Are you a lawyer? Why are you trying to dump 2,500 pages of lawyer talk on me? Why are you defending the destruction of the American prosperity and the American middle class?
Are you personally invested in Chinese slave labor? Are you profiting from it personally?
Are you a politician? Why do you respond to statements of the obvious with personal attacks?
As the Russian Communists used to say, “The Capitalists will sell us the rope we’ll use to hang them.” We came close to doing that and we’re doing it again with the Chicoms.
Marx claimed he was in favor of free trade because it would antagonize the working classes into overthrowing the bourgeoise. How do you reconcile the above with a comment such as claiming free trade is destroying the middle class, or other such garbage?
China is our #1 enemy. U.S. trading partners are just slow to realize it.
Communists LOVE free-trade.Karl Marx in the New-York Daily Tribune 1861 The British Cotton Trade
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1861/10/14.htm
^^^^^^^Here is Karl Marx bitching about the Union blockade of the south, and how he is losing money with the cotton mills in England that were owned by his buddy Friedrich Engels! Friedrich Engels and Marx are limosine-liberal equivalent of today. Friedrich Engels inherited the cotton mills in Manchester from his daddy. Him and Marx (probably homosexuals) ran them together.
Yep... the welfare plantation... Shugart was indeed a communist...
Shugart is dead now. His smarmy little antics of running Earnest, his dog, for Congress in Monterey was at best a pathetic prank. He lived in Pebble Beach and the local communist newspapers made a lot of hay over it to further fill their pages with ancillary drivel.
He liked to hire a lot of foreigners who would work cheap, extolled the virtues of government providing everything instead of reaching into his own pocket to pay for it.
Registering his dog to vote in Monterey County should have landed him in the jail for fraud. He was a pile of dung...
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