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Seagate's corporate statement further claimed all hard drives leaving the Chinese subcontractor are now clean.

Seagate needs to leave the Chinese subcontractor. Duncan Hunter will address trade practices with China when he becomes President.
1 posted on 11/22/2007 4:12:02 AM PST by Man50D
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Duncan Hunter ping!


2 posted on 11/22/2007 4:12:37 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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Unreal. I wonder if certain secure US GOVERNMENT departments are customers?

This kind of crap is a serious security breach.

Even if the ChiCom government isn’t involved, the company could still market this info to... wealthy parties of interest.


3 posted on 11/22/2007 4:18:18 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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To: Man50D; Jeff Head

Oh, I’m sure we can take Seagate’s word that the Chicom government was not involved in this. Suuuuurrrrrre we can.


5 posted on 11/22/2007 4:22:55 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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I think most companies using Chinese subcontractors need to be re-evaluating at this point.


6 posted on 11/22/2007 4:27:48 AM PST by Blue Highway
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The company argued, "Our investigation also determined that the introduction of the virus (sic) was accidental and was not purposeful or malicious."

When you succumb to pure materialism (the bottom line rules in all things), then you end up defending treacherous people with any kind of lame excuse you can think of. The main objective is to be able to continue to do business in China, no matter what the cost to others (such as your customers). It was an accident that the trojan horses were included on the hard drives? I suppose it was an accident that the trojan horses were sending the information to Beijing?

8 posted on 11/22/2007 4:38:59 AM PST by Rocky
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To: Duchess47; jahp; LilAngel; metmom; EggsAckley; Battle Axe; SweetCaroline; Grizzled Bear; ...
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
”Made in China” Ping.

(Please FReepmail me if you would like to be on or off of the list.)
9 posted on 11/22/2007 4:40:13 AM PST by JACKRUSSELL
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Lest we forget:

Chinese Seek to Buy a U.S. Maker of Disk Drives.

10 posted on 11/22/2007 4:44:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Man50D

I’m not buying it. Seagate bows down to their Chinese masters.


11 posted on 11/22/2007 4:51:23 AM PST by csvset
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To: Man50D

Chinese gov’t not to blame for infected hard-drives?

the chinese are not to blame for lead painted toys/poison pet food/or any other substandard products.....it is the bad americans’ fault!!!!!


12 posted on 11/22/2007 4:51:31 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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the manufacturer says it doesn't believe the Chinese government was involved.

I do. Too many sensitive breakins have been traced to their government agencies. Their contempt for patents and copyrights knows no bounds, even if the hackings were their "private Industry"- Not that there is any difference in a Communist state.

They need to be disconnected.

14 posted on 11/22/2007 4:56:38 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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the manufacturer says it doesn't believe the Chinese government was involved.

Well that's certainly a far more convenient answer than making themselves a target of chinese retaliation.
16 posted on 11/22/2007 5:07:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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18 posted on 11/22/2007 5:34:21 AM PST by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter, the real deal, the only deal for Conservative Americans)
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Which models are the hard drives in question?


21 posted on 11/22/2007 5:58:01 AM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com China Industries International

Made in CHINA!!!

their new corporate logo...

23 posted on 11/22/2007 6:01:54 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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Maybe or maybe not related. Good for consideration.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890608/posts
Chinese military hacked into Pentagon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1913355/posts
China hijacks Google, Yahoo, MSN, Youtube


25 posted on 11/22/2007 6:05:18 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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Hunter would be worthy of consideration if he’d advocate the overthrow, violent or otherwise, of the Red Chinese hegemonists and the unfettered elimination of the false “religion” of islam by the same methods. Otherwise, he’s just another politico who’ll submit to the powers-that-be in DC.


29 posted on 11/22/2007 6:15:21 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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You will not that there is not a word about how long this has been going on, how to get rid of the Trojan, or if it's even possible.
44 posted on 11/22/2007 7:23:31 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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As the Russian Communists used to say, “The Capitalists will sell us the rope we’ll use to hang them.” We came close to doing that and we’re doing it again with the Chicoms.


56 posted on 11/22/2007 8:07:03 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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China is our #1 enemy. U.S. trading partners are just slow to realize it.


58 posted on 11/22/2007 8:17:42 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220
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It's not just only Seagate, there are hundreds of corporation who's willing to sell out our country for the mighty ,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$.$$!

And the traitorous CEO's of these companies have even written to Congress asking our politicians to do the same.

From the American Economic Alert Article:

Will Congress Sell Out the American People at "U.S." multinational CEOs' Request?

William R. Hawkins Tuesday, November 20, 2007

On November 14, the CEOs of 105 major transnational corporations sent a letter organized by the U.S.-China Business Council to the Democratic and Republican leaders of both houses of Congress. The letter argued against enacting any legislation “targeting the U.S.-China trading relationship.” These corporations are heavily involved financially in this ‘relationship,” helping China rise to become the next great rival to the United States. They provide Beijing with capital and technology, and place the orders that keep Chinese factories open while American factories close – or move their own factories from here to China. They bear much of the responsibility for last year’s lopsided $235 billion U.S. trade deficit with China.

When their letter cites the “enormous benefits to our economy in terms of job creation and economic growth,” they should really be talking about China. U.S. exports to Beijing have grown over the past five years, but from a much lower base – from $18 billion to $52 billion. Meanwhile U.S. imports from China have jumped from $102 billion to $287 billion. Although the percentage increase in U.S. export growth is greater, percentages don’t buy anything; cash does. And this is where China makes out like the bandit that it is – with a tripling of the American trade deficit with Beijing over those five years.

The problems posed by China’s rise cannot be ignored. Even the CEOs had to pay lip service to issues of “currency valuation, product safety, and intellectual property protection” – areas where China is ignoring its international obligations. But the CEOs just don’t want anything done about them. They did not even mention going to the World Trade Organization as an alternative to “unilateral trade penalties.” All they want is for U.S. leaders to “engage directly with the Chinese Government on issues of mutual concern.” In other words, the U.S. government should continue to engage in chit-chat while letting Beijing call the all the real shots.

Our problems with China are not just commercial. Defense Secretary Robert Gates recently visited Beijing to “engage” its leaders on the many strategic concerns arising as U.S.-Chinese national interests continue to come into greater conflict. One issue Mr. Gates raised was outright Chinese support for Iran – not just Beijing’s opposition to sanctions against Tehran’s nuclear program. China is arming Iran with conventional weapons, some of which end up in the hands of insurgents and militias in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon. But his hosts were silent except to urge that only “peaceful means” be used to counter Iran’s ambitions – and Beijing defines sanctions as non-peaceful. Mr. Gates got even less of an answer about Beijing’s anti-satellite program. Meanwhile, during his visit, a Chinese spacecraft was headed to the Moon, Chinese factories were turning out new warplanes and nuclear missiles (including ICBMs that can strike America), and Chinese shipyards were building submarines and destroyers in larger numbers than American yards.

It is often said that Beijing’s aims are not ‘transparent” because Chinese officials give up nothing in the endless rounds of talks that are constantly being conducted under the “engagement” approach. But for those who can see (and count), the Chinese strategic objective is quite obvious: to overthrow American “hegemony” around the world. And this gaggle of CEOs has decided that they can profit by helping Beijing achieve its goals against the security and prosperity of the United States.

William Reinsch, president of the National Foreign Trade Council (notorious for its defense of doing business with rogue regimes), was quoted by the Washington Post on Nov. 16 as saying, "As weaponry gets more and more sophisticated . . . I think we’ll find ourselves more vulnerable for parts that are being manufactured by an adversary," meaning China. This is not idle speculation. One of the CEOs who signed the letter was W. James McNerney, Jr. of the Boeing Company, one of America’s leading defense contractors. Boeing is already outsourcing production of components for its commercial aircraft to China. So it is not that these business executives do not know what is happening, or what the dangers are. They just don’t care. Indeed, Beijing pays them not to care.

The letter by the CEOs should persuade Congress only of their untrustworthiness. Those who throw in their lot with a rival power merely out of personal greed or corporate gain should have no standing in the corridors of Congress, or anywhere else where American policy is supposed to be determined by public servants. But unfortunately, in many circles, money has become the basis of politics, not patriotism.

The main reason these rogue CEOs and the mercenary hacks they employ as lobbyists get in the offices of Members of Congress is not because they have anything intelligent to say about U.S.-China policy, but because they wave corporate and personal checkbooks in support of the Members re-election campaigns. Indeed, the reason the text of the letter was so short on substance was that the argument was not the message – the list of major campaign contributors among the signers was the real point being made to Congress..

So is Congress for sale to the China lobby? Do Beijing’s “gains from trade” include the power to decide what legislation the U.S. Congress will pass? Eventually, the record will speak for itself – and in fact, it already does. Floor action on all of the pending China bills has already slipped into next year – this despite the loud public outcry over the many examples of scandals and reckless behavior by Beijing and Chinese corporations this year.

Concerned readers should request a copy of the CEO letter from their Members of Congress, and ask the politicians whose interests they plan to represent – America’s or China’s – between now and the next election.

73 posted on 11/22/2007 10:48:40 AM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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