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Students Suspended For Talking About Nooses
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=4982891&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1 ^

Posted on 11/24/2007 6:56:55 AM PST by chessplayer

Accusations of racism in a Lee's Summit high school have lead to suspensions, but now the parents say their kids were unfairly punished.

Travis Grigsby loves playing drums, but he and his friend Alex Coday weren't able to play for two weeks after they were suspended. It started after the band's performance at a football game. Some kids on the drum line said they were talking about the best knots to use to tie up the drum equipment.

"Someone asked if anybody knew how to tie a noose and Travis did admit he knew how to tie a noose," Kim Grigsby said.

Travis' mom said her son is almost an Eagle Scout, he knew how to tie it, but told his friends he wouldn't because you could get in trouble for that. Later, a black student on the drum line told the teacher he was offended.

"Travis was accused of using a racial slur for saying the word 'noose.' Then he was suspended for 10 days," Kim said.

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KEYWORDS: discipline; noose; pc; publikskewlz; speechcodes; zerotolerance
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To: blam
What's in the future?

I firmly believe at some point in the future Americans will throw off the chains of this PC nonsense.

I have five grown children all between the age of 23 to 31 and can tell you all of them are just sick to death of this crap.

The key will be whether they fall into apathy or action. American ultimately are people of action, after being pushed to the wall.

21 posted on 11/24/2007 7:27:15 AM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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To: chessplayer

www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.thoughtpolice19nov19,0,2384977.story

Here come the thought policeBy Ralph E. Shaffer and R. William Robinson
November 19, 2007

With overwhelming bipartisan support, Rep. Jane Harman’s “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act” passed the House 404-6 late last month and now rests in Sen. Joe Lieberman’s Homeland Security Committee. Swift Senate passage appears certain.

Not since the “Patriot Act” of 2001 has any bill so threatened our constitutionally guaranteed rights.

The historian Henry Steele Commager, denouncing President John Adams’ suppression of free speech in the 1790s, argued that the Bill of Rights was not written to protect government from dissenters but to provide a legal means for citizens to oppose a government they didn’t trust.

Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence not only proclaimed the right to dissent but declared it a people’s duty, under certain conditions, to alter or abolish their government.

In that vein, diverse groups vigorously oppose Ms. Harman’s effort to stifle dissent. Unfortunately, the mainstream press and leading presidential candidates remain silent.

Ms. Harman, a California Democrat, thinks it likely that the United States will face a native brand of terrorism in the immediate future and offers a plan to deal with ideologically based violence.

But her plan is a greater danger to us than the threats she fears. Her bill tramples constitutional rights by creating a commission with sweeping investigative power and a mandate to propose laws prohibiting whatever the commission labels “homegrown terrorism.”

The proposed commission is a menace through its power to hold hearings, take testimony and administer oaths, an authority granted to even individual members of the commission - little Joe McCarthys - who will tour the country to hold their own private hearings. An aura of authority will automatically accompany this congressionally authorized mandate to expose native terrorism.

Ms. Harman’s proposal includes an absurd attack on the Internet, criticizing it for providing Americans with “access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda,” and legalizes an insidious infiltration of targeted organizations. The misnamed “Center of Excellence,” which would function after the commission is disbanded in 18 months, gives the semblance of intellectual research to what is otherwise the suppression of dissent.

While its purpose is to prevent terrorism, the bill doesn’t criminalize any specific conduct or contain penalties. But the commission’s findings will be cited by those who see a terrorist under every bed and who will demand enactment of criminal penalties that further restrict free speech and other civil liberties. Action contrary to the commission’s findings will be interpreted as a sign of treason at worst or a lack of patriotism at the least.

While Ms. Harman denies that her proposal creates “thought police,” it defines “homegrown terrorism” as “planned” or “threatened” use of force to coerce the government or the people in the promotion of “political or social objectives.” That means that no force need actually have occurred as long as the government charges that the individual or group thought about doing it.

Any social or economic reform is fair game. Have a march of 100 or 100,000 people to demand a reform - amnesty for illegal immigrants or overturning Roe v. Wade - and someone can perceive that to be a use of force to intimidate the people, courts or government.

The bill defines “violent radicalization” as promoting an “extremist belief system.” But American governments, state and national, have a long history of interpreting radical “belief systems” as inevitably leading to violence to facilitate change.

Examples of the resulting crackdowns on such protests include the conviction and execution of anarchists tied to Chicago’s 1886 Haymarket Riot. Hearings conducted by the House Un-American Activities Committee for several decades during the Cold War and the solo hearings by a member of that committee’s Senate counterpart, Joseph McCarthy, demonstrate the dangers inherent in Ms. Harman’s legislation.

Ms. Harman denies that her bill is a threat to the First Amendment. It clearly states that no measure to prevent homegrown terrorism should violate “constitutional rights, civil rights or civil liberties.”

But the present administration has demonstrated, in its response to criticism regarding torture, that it can’t be trusted to honor those rights.

Ralph E. Shaffer, professor emeritus of history at California State Polytechnic University, Pomona, and R. William Robinson, an elected director of a Southern California water district, wrote this article for the History News Service.


22 posted on 11/24/2007 7:27:40 AM PST by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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To: Popman
"I have five grown children all between the age of 23 to 31 and can tell you all of them are just sick to death of this crap."

Yup. My 38 year old thinks the same.

23 posted on 11/24/2007 7:30:29 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: weef
Mark Twain gets away with it because he was smarter than the Bowlderizers. IF you take Huck Finn and replace the "n word" with "African-American" or "people of color" it will make the slaver class sound like fine, polite gentlemen.

Obviously they weren't. That's why you never hear the Bowlderizers demanding the "n word" be excised and replaced with a more polite term. At the same time, now that they're all Democrats, they're just as happy to have the whole book banned.

That's what Democrats do you know. Just censor everything. Send your doctor to jail. Make your babies learn to smoke.

24 posted on 11/24/2007 7:30:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: chessplayer

Noose - the new “N-word”


25 posted on 11/24/2007 7:31:16 AM PST by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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To: chessplayer
>Students Suspended For Talking About Nooses

Geez, maybe the kids
didn't know how to pronounce
the tough, 'noosphere' . . .
26 posted on 11/24/2007 7:34:13 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Noose: The knot which must not be named.

They should call a lawyer, threaten a big bucks lawsuit and then settle for an public apology and an “unsuspension.”

Then run for the school board.


27 posted on 11/24/2007 7:34:17 AM PST by spna (Lawton-Ft. Sill OK.)
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To: TN4Liberty

28 posted on 11/24/2007 7:34:39 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: sure_fine
Sounds Congresscritter Harman has recently developed a taste for some real "McCarthyism".

Not at all surprising. I've been watching this ol'gal for the last 6 years and she's gradually "gone over" to the Islamofascist cause.

What a nut case.

29 posted on 11/24/2007 7:34:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: chessplayer

This whole “noose” subject has become a fool’s errand! Symbolism has trumped substance and has shown that some people, liberals in particular, cannot be trusted with any authority or power.


30 posted on 11/24/2007 7:35:44 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: chessplayer

With the long weekend, the media has to come up with slow noose day articles.


31 posted on 11/24/2007 7:37:26 AM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Condor51

When we have to use “Ni” and “No” for the different “n” words, how will we tell the difference from “no” and no?


32 posted on 11/24/2007 7:41:12 AM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: spna
|"big bucks lawsuit" Hmmmm.... Why does that sound racist somehow...

Aha. "Buckwheat."

33 posted on 11/24/2007 7:41:30 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Reductio ad absurdum.)
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To: chessplayer
Contact information for the admministrative staff at Lee's Summit West High School is available here.
34 posted on 11/24/2007 7:41:41 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: weef
"Later my boss explained I should not be using that term because I could offend some of my co-workers. "

Well talk about offensive.
Here's a one male to two female adapter.

Kinda gets the imagination going...

35 posted on 11/24/2007 7:41:44 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

How about male and female plugs?


36 posted on 11/24/2007 7:42:50 AM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: chessplayer
Later, a black student on the drum line told the teacher he was offended.

In the rotten public school system where I live, white students are never offended by black students, they are simply intimidated by them. They would NEVER tell on a black student, not even if the student was found crying in the hall with marks of physical violence.

37 posted on 11/24/2007 7:44:26 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: sure_fine

And who watches the watchers?


38 posted on 11/24/2007 7:44:53 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: blam
What's in the future?

Rope

39 posted on 11/24/2007 7:45:38 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: Condor51


This is utterly ridiculous!!

94-Year-Old Granny Tied Saddam's Noose From Historic Rope

Written by Chris Hanson
Story written: 06 January 2007

Granny Tested Noose On Kitty "Saddam"

image for 94-Year-Old  Granny Tied Saddam's Noose From Historic RopeWASHINGTON, Jan. 6, Reuters -- A 94-year-old folk artist tied Saddam Hussein's execution noose using the rigging of an historic warship, then risked her life to save the rope from a lynch mob, the White House said today.

Elizabeth "Granny" Knott of York, PA., created the huge noose at the request of President Bush, spokesman Tony Snow told reporters.

"The First Lady is much impressed with Ms. Knott's so-called 'primitive' rope work, which, as most of you know, preserves the craftsmanship of the past: clothes lines, goat tethers, lassos, ladders, sailors' riggings."

Snow said the National Archives provided Knott with rope from the USS Bonhomme Richard, which was commanded by John Paul Jones and sank after its crew boarded and captured a British frigate in 1779. The rope survived because Jones had lashed himself to a mast with it to keep his footing during part of the four-hour battle.

Knott tied the noose and tested it on a dress-maker's mannequin, Snow said. She also tried to test it on a stray cat, but "Saddam" wriggled free with minor injuries and is now a beloved pet in her home.

The government attempted to keep the identity of the noose-maker secret. But word leaked out. A mob of capital punishment foes brandishing torches tried to force their way into her home, intent on lynching the noose, according to Snow.

"She shamed them into leaving," Snow said. When reporters asked him how, he paraphrased poet John Greenleaf Whittier:

"Shoot if you must this old gray head,
But spare the tyrant's rope, she said."


40 posted on 11/24/2007 7:50:38 AM PST by cynwoody
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