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OUR OPINION: Nation's children being harmed by unmarried adults
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 11/25/07 | Jim Wooten

Posted on 11/25/2007 7:45:05 AM PST by madprof98

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To: madprof98

Its a discrimination issue when black men recklessly father children and then refuse to support them?


21 posted on 11/25/2007 2:33:59 PM PST by quadrant
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To: cubreporter

Perhaps we should change it so it would imply “bastard FATHER” or “bastard MOTHER”.

True it isn’t the child’s fault, and we know that. It’s just the way the un-PC world used to clarify things - and they were right. But the onus should be on the parents.


22 posted on 11/25/2007 2:35:31 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Neither my husband nor I are college graduates and we managed to keep our offspring in our marriage.


23 posted on 11/25/2007 2:37:18 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: Vigilantcitizen; RobFromGa

Wow, some common sense from the AJC’s editorial page. Such a rarity!

I expect to now witness porcine aviation.


24 posted on 11/25/2007 2:39:48 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: RushingWater
Still waiting for the People mag cover title: Brad and Angelina welcome their bastard child!

Apparently People Magazine at times still has more decorum than Free Republic.

25 posted on 11/25/2007 2:41:05 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: RushingWater
Still waiting for the People mag cover title: Brad and Angelina welcome their bastard child!

That would be horrible! Why penalize a child for the parents' sin? The child certainly had nothing to do with it. Rather, feel sorry for the child who has two such parents, who collect children like trinkets for a charm bracelet.

I had to look it up on wikipedia to see if A.J. even HAD a child. Yes, she gave birth to her own child. (She has 3 adopted children and 1 natural child. (I think. It's hard to keep up with all the children she's collecting.)

But her lifestyle is certainly worrisome. A proponent of BDSM (as I read on wikipedia), which I'd never even heard of, at least not with that acronym. Angelina is one sick person. So please don't blame the child! That includes not stigmatizing her. It's going to be a hard enough life for her, without throwing evil name-calling at her.

26 posted on 11/25/2007 2:50:18 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Deport 'em all.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
I am part of the first generation, Gen X, that will have a lower standard of living than the previous generation

People have been saying the same thing for 100 years -- usally when running against incumbents. It hasn't been true yet, and there's no reason to think it will be true now. You can look at a data series going back to 1790 (admittedly the early stats are debatable), and real per capita income growth over 20 years (1 generation) runs around 40-50%, for the whole period, with the lowest in the very early years of the republic. In 40 years it runs a bit over 100% on average.

Most of the people whining about how we're doing worse don't see that we're really "doing different." I grew up in a pretty average family for my town -- 900 square foot house, eat out twice a year, one black-and white TV. Travel 1000 miles away every 2 years. If you live that way today, you can do it with a much lower class job than my Dad had back then with a stay-at-home Mom. If you want a 2500 square foot house, eat out twice a week, 2 Plasma HDTV, go on vacation to at least to Fla or the Caribbean every year --- you need a lot more income -- and the average person actually has it.

I don't mean to rag on you personally, but that's the facts, and the "average" person is out there making it happen, every day.

27 posted on 11/25/2007 4:07:09 PM PST by BohDaThone
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28 posted on 11/25/2007 4:11:05 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Absolutely. No child brings him/herself into this world. They should never be labeled illigitimate or otherwise. They are beautiful babies and deserve to be happy and respected. It’s the people who make it happen that should be the ones responsible. I’m not for abortion because to me it is out and out murder. However, if someone wants one that should be between them and their maker...but I don’t want to pay for it with our hard earned money. I don’t ask them to pay for my hospital bill when I have a baby so I don’t want to pay for theirs when they murder a baby.


29 posted on 11/25/2007 4:11:43 PM PST by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for this country than any other politician ever! He's the man!!!!)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

I think the answer is that mothers of small children should not be in the work force. (I am one of them too.) Maybe then the rest of employees could A) not need much time off work and B) earn more.

We need to preserve civilization. Forcing our children to live most of their day without being in mom’s bosom is really not the greatest idea for civilization. Day care and all-day schooling IS a Brave New World; the media has twisted us around to think it’s normal.


30 posted on 11/25/2007 4:15:23 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: cubreporter
the dictionaries can give any meaning to it they want

Now there's something to ponder.

31 posted on 11/25/2007 4:17:17 PM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: madprof98

Kevin McCullough wrote a good column about this subject for Townhall today:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2007/11/25/no-fault_=_no_kids


32 posted on 11/25/2007 4:20:38 PM PST by HerzogAEH
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To: MSF BU
In may cases now, they run away and have nothing to do with their children or grandchildren. I am fortunate to come from a family where that is not the case but many people are not so fortunate.

And as parents have children later in life, grandparents may be too infirmed (or deceased) to help out with the grandkids in any substantive way.

That's the case with my family situation. I'm working part-time at home, while raising a 3 year-old and keeping an eye on my Mother, whose health took a turn for the worse this year. My father passed away 7 years ago, and my wife's parents are in poor health.

33 posted on 11/25/2007 4:27:55 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: FreedomPoster
Wow, some common sense from the AJC’s editorial page. Such a rarity!

Wooten is their token whitey conservative.

34 posted on 11/25/2007 4:29:59 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; cubreporter
By all means, let's get PC! </sarc>

But before we do so, perhaps you'll consider that it might be you who is putting the negative spin on a word that is straightforward. Note that William the Conqueror was known in state documents as "William the Bastard."

35 posted on 11/25/2007 4:39:06 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Don’t care what William was called...it’s still a terrible label to hang on a child.


36 posted on 11/25/2007 4:43:02 PM PST by cubreporter ( Rush has done more for this country than any other politician ever! He's the man!!!!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Believe it or not, about every 15 or 20 columns, Cynthia Tucker makes some sense. Now, that one column doesn’t come even *close* to overcoming the idiocy in those other 14 or 19 columns.


37 posted on 11/25/2007 6:02:44 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

This is not Cynthia. This is Jim Wooten, the token conservative on the editorial board. He is allowed to write stuff like this because Cynthia sorta/kinda agrees but wouldn’t put her name to it.


38 posted on 11/25/2007 6:27:11 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98

Oh, I know. Just pointing out that even CT can make some sense from time to time.

Wooten, they keep on a very short leash.


39 posted on 11/25/2007 7:19:43 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Yaelle
Three tips for financial stability (although not necessarily prosperity):

1) Marry before having children
2) Both parents work toward keeping the family intact and
3) Live below your means.

40 posted on 11/25/2007 7:24:29 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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