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Gun Rights and Presidential Politics
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2007 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 11/26/2007 5:24:25 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Beelzebubba

OK, I thought you likely were, but I didn’t want someone reading it later to think that top part was my comment.


61 posted on 11/26/2007 9:48:59 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

I’m definitely third partying it if the GOP nominates Rudy McRomney.


62 posted on 11/26/2007 9:54:34 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Dead Corpse
I can agree with your statement on McCain too.

He can’t be trusted even if he has voted correctly a few times on gun issues.( He is borderline insane IMHO)

I can’t see Rooty or Romney EVER voting correct on the issue.

All three are turds that need flushing.

63 posted on 11/26/2007 9:56:42 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
All three are turds that need flushing.

Amen. Thompson seems to have come around since his lackluster RKBA performance in the Senate. His recent statements show a sincere change of heart.

Duncan Hunter has always been solid on RKBA. This puts him at the top of my list.

Ron Paul is unbeatable on the RKBA front from a policy standpoint, but has some serious flaws in his foreign policy and who he is in bed with with his campaign.

Huckabee? His socialist stance on medical care and taxes rule him out regardless of whatever his RKBA stance might be.

64 posted on 11/26/2007 10:01:04 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

“I’m definitely third partying it if the GOP nominates Rudy McRomney.”

Me, too.


65 posted on 11/26/2007 10:04:52 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian
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To: Dead Corpse

Fred has a good voting record on gun issues if you count real gun votes and not the silly crap GOA put out.

He has an NRA lifetime A rating.

Charlton Heston personally went to Tenn to campaign for him.


66 posted on 11/26/2007 10:08:23 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Dead Corpse

“No more gun grabbers. EVER...”

B T T T


67 posted on 11/26/2007 10:10:02 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Ron Paul is unbeatable on the RKBA front”

Ron Paul has a few very real anti gun votes in his record.


68 posted on 11/26/2007 10:10:17 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Depends on how you feel about things like getting government permission before exercising a Right, exactly what an "assault weapon" is, and the never ending harassment of "kitchen table" FFL's.

The NRA is fine with a certain level of "infringement" in the name of capitulation and groveling. Their "A" rating only means that someone gave up something somewhere...

More than likely something that'll bite us in the arse later...

69 posted on 11/26/2007 10:11:31 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Beagle8U
Not really. Look at those he voted against. They either over stepped FedGov authority or were "compromise" bills that would do more harm than good. Be sure to check and see how many "poison pill" "amendments" were added to said bills as well. His stance on RKBA is what everyone's should be... L. Neil Smith said it best:

Every man, woman, and responsible child has an unalienable individual, civil, Constitutional, and human right to obtain, own, and carry, openly or concealed, any weapon -- rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- any time, any place, without asking anyone's permission. - L. Neil Smith. The Atlanta Declaration

Anything less violates the Second's prohibition on government action and diminishes the scope of our Rights.

70 posted on 11/26/2007 10:14:28 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Rudy, Mitt, Hucksterbee, McCain..........man have we got a pack of losers running for POTUS. Only Hunter and Thompson are decent, and Hunter never got off the ground. I’m for a Thompson Hunter ticket, and just hope they prevail.


71 posted on 11/26/2007 10:18:30 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Dead Corpse

Ron Paul..

Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)


72 posted on 11/26/2007 10:19:04 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Protecting private industries is not a Federal Power. Waiting periods should be done away with entirely. Reducing them from 3 days to 1 is like the difference of being raped by 3 attackers or just 1...


73 posted on 11/26/2007 10:24:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Protecting private industries is not a Federal Power.”

It sure is when its pukes like Rooty suing gun makers and dealers in other states!


74 posted on 11/26/2007 10:26:50 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Those suits should have been tossed out with prejudice and the lawyers filing them held in contempt of Court and of Congress. The BoR is quite clear. Absent criminal intent on the part of the manufacturers, there was no "there" there.

This doesn't require more legislation from an emanation of a penumbra. That whole situation could have resolved itself by judges doing their job. And any judge not doing his/her job should have been impeached and removed from the bench.

75 posted on 11/26/2007 10:31:29 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Be that as it may, If they are being sued in a Fed district court its a Fed issue to vote on it.

Check the record and see how many times Paul and Kookcinish vote together on an issue.

He is nuts!


76 posted on 11/26/2007 10:35:39 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Be that as it may,..."

Stop right there please. If the judiciary is not doing it's job, it is either the Executive or "We the People"'s job to rectify the situation. There is no legislative power to "fix" the judiciary. Unless you found something in the Constitution I didn't know was there? Art 1 is pretty clear. Art 3 says judges shall only hold office during "good behavior".

I'd say allowing a harassment suit to go forward counts as "bad behavior". As does attempting to legislate from the Bench.

The Legislature trying to "fix" things normally does more harm than good. If such a path worked, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

As noted, Paul is a Kook on the WoT. His pandering to the anti-war crowd and siding with the likes of Kucinich were his "jump the shark" moment for me...

77 posted on 11/26/2007 11:07:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Kaslin
Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, John McCain, and Mike Huckabee are staunch Second Amendment advocates and all oppose most restrictions on gun rights including D.C.’s. Rudy Giuliani favors some restrictions but opposes the D.C. gun ban. He thinks the Supreme Court should strike it down permanently.

The author must be on crack. Mitt, McLame and Rudy are ALL gun grabbers of the first order! The only time they ever turned their back on a gun law they figured somebody at the national level might be watching. McLame sponsored the Assault Weapons Ban and pushed it. BUT he came out in "favor" of the 2nd Amendment right after the Virginia Tech massacre. He knew somebody would be paying attention to this and hoped to score points with the political base. Sorry, we have long memories and they will include the unconstitutional perfidies of the candidates on this critical issue. Fred, Mike and Duncan (as well as Ron Paul even if he IS a whacko) are all on record as being very pro-gun. But I think that their stances on gun control is what is going to keep Mitt, Rudy and McLame from winning in the south and without the solid south no nomination and no win in the general.

78 posted on 11/26/2007 11:13:09 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone want to guess how many on the Supreme Court try to twist the plain meaning of “the people” into something it isn’t?


79 posted on 11/26/2007 1:53:17 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Joe Brower
The answer seems obvious........
80 posted on 11/26/2007 3:31:08 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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