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To: DoughtyOne
It's reasonable to draw analogies between Hitler and a rapist. But Gaffney goes way overboard by implying that Secretary of State Rice is organizing a Hitler-like rape of Israel. It's offensive and untrue.

Whatever the merits of Gaffney's argument, he has thoroughly discredited himself with the rapist jab at Rice, and his arguments will never be taken seriously at the State Department again.

6 posted on 11/27/2007 1:05:16 AM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: HAL9000

I dunno. If Condy is pushing Israel to give up something for the benefit of a nation of terrorists and murderers at the expense of Israel, then I would liken her to the bar-hag who pins the virgin down so the brutes can have their way.


8 posted on 11/27/2007 1:17:42 AM PST by 60Gunner (I'm an ER nurse. You want the family package? Take your six kids to Disneyland.)
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To: HAL9000

Okay, that’s what you have gleaned from this and I can accept it. What will you say next spring if a Palestinian state is recognized and Israel has to give up half of Jeusalem? What will you say when the Palestinians destroy the regligious treasures of Israel in Jerusalem like they did Joseph’s tomb? Then what will you say next year about this time when Syria has armed the new Palestinian state in the same manner as it has the Hezballah in southern Lebanon? And what will you say in the spring of 2009, when the Palestinians invade Israeli territory and exact thousands if not tens of thousands of fatalities before Israel can fight them off?

Will you still defend Condi? I won’t.

IMO, this is precisely the scenario Condi is ushering in. And I for one detest it.

We see this differently. What Gaffney has said is strong. If he is proven wrong, he will bear the weight of it. If he isn’t the State Department will hate his arse anyway. The State Department is a real den of iniquity IMO. It would be a badge of honor for them to dispise my ideology.


12 posted on 11/27/2007 1:37:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: HAL9000
Whatever the merits of Gaffney's argument, he has thoroughly discredited himself with the rapist jab at Rice, and his arguments will never be taken seriously at the State Department again.

Never having arguments taken seriously by the State Department should qualify Gaffney as the country's top foreign policy maker.

38 posted on 11/27/2007 5:57:30 AM PST by JewishRighter
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To: HAL9000
“Whatever the merits of Gaffney’s argument, he has thoroughly discredited himself with the rapist jab at Rice, and his arguments will never be taken seriously at the State Department again.”

... sure shoot the messenger. What he is saying is 100% true, much as you may hate to admit it. The state department likes to appease terrorists so you are probably right though. They will never listen to him or anyone else with a clue, but then they never have.

39 posted on 11/27/2007 7:14:05 AM PST by monday
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To: HAL9000
"...his arguments will never be taken seriously at the State Department again."

Well,
some people say you are defined by your enemies.
I'd think Gaffney got the better end of the deal.

46 posted on 11/27/2007 8:07:51 AM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice)
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To: HAL9000
But Gaffney goes way overboard by implying that Secretary of State Rice is organizing a Hitler-like rape of Israel. It's offensive and untrue.

It is indeed offensive, but very true. The only thing the Palestinians have released in their recent news releases is that they are going to be able to mount larger warheads on their missiles they daily fire into Israel.

This war on terrorism has us hosting the axis of evil, demanding the surrender of the only democratic state in the reigon to war criminals. A generation from now, people will wonder what was wrong with our heads, and commenting on the nurenburg trials of 2010 and the hangings of those "just following orders".

This moment in history is history, for the ideals of America. The ends do not justify the means, for Hitler or for us. This is the moment we should be standing for justice and peace, not making deals with the devil trying to throw Israel to the wolves.

51 posted on 11/27/2007 8:45:21 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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