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Red State Thompson Vs. Blue State Giuliani
Canada Press ^ | November 27, 2007 | JB Williams

Posted on 11/27/2007 5:59:46 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

While it may not be popular among third tier campaign operatives, it is fair to make the prediction that the Republican primary race will most likely soon result in a two man tussle for the party nod. Here’s why…

Conservative voters are looking closely, with a jaundice eye, at the virtual buffet of Republican candidates seeking the RNC nomination for ’08. Most of them are either disenchanted or flatly angry with the Bush administration and the Republican congress for their less than conservative record of national leadership.

It’s conservative voters who tossed Republicans from control of both houses of congress in 2006 and it is conservatives who will either advance a truly conservative nominee, or toss Republicans from the White House in ‘08.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; fredthompson; giuliani; paul; romney; thompson
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1 posted on 11/27/2007 5:59:46 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Here we are peeved about RINOs yet Guiliani still leads?

Anger does not translate into votes--at least not in the long-term
2 posted on 11/27/2007 6:02:45 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OCCASparky
Anger does not translate into votes--at least not in the long-term

Anger seems to translate into absence of votes.
3 posted on 11/27/2007 6:07:11 AM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: OCCASparky
Anger does not translate into votes--at least not in the long-term

That's just as true in the general election, as in the primaries. Which is why the Republicans will lose in '08, if they don't nominate candidates that satisfy the base.

4 posted on 11/27/2007 6:07:15 AM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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To: OCCASparky
Here we are peeved about RINOs yet Guiliani still leads?

The reason Giuliani still leads is because his "moderate" vote support is all clustered behind him. The conservatives have their votes all split up behind various candidates. Once candidates start dropping out, conservatives will start to line up behind one candidate & that candidate will have many more numbers than Rudy.

5 posted on 11/27/2007 6:07:18 AM PST by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Sec. of Defense, Dir. of Homeland Security - or Vice President!)
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To: OCCASparky

Rudy supporters are not counting on conservative support in the general election, they are counting on replacing conservative votes with moderate Democrat voters who won’t vote for Hillary.

Much like the Paul campaign, which appeals mostly to the hardcore anti-war movement across the aisle, Giuliani is looking for WOT votes from the RNC and social liberal votes from Independents and Democrats in the general election.

Rudy is Hillary domestically, just tough on terror.


6 posted on 11/27/2007 6:11:48 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: sourcery

Exactly...


7 posted on 11/27/2007 6:12:23 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican



8 posted on 11/27/2007 6:13:25 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: alicewonders

Hope you’re right, but conservatives seem very confused over which candidates are or are not conservative today.

Some actually think RP is conservative???


9 posted on 11/27/2007 6:13:59 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Rudy is Hillary domestically, just tough on terror.

He is weak on that too...

10 posted on 11/27/2007 6:14:33 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Why do people think voters angry with Bush over his left leaning record, will support a candidate left of Bush?


11 posted on 11/27/2007 6:16:12 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

“America isn’t New York City and Red State conservatives are not New York Republicans. They won’t line up behind a Blue State moderate in 2008 and anyone who believes that they will is in for a huge surprise next November.”

To me a “Moderate”=Liberal Socialist ala Rudy, and might as well vote for a CommieCrat.

America doesn’t need two Leftist Political Parties as the Republican Party Leadership seems to think is the trend.

It will be Fred ‘08.


12 posted on 11/27/2007 6:18:37 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Some actually think RP is conservative???

Well, I don't agree with Ron Paul's views on the war at all - but many of his other views actually are "conservative". As I understand it, he is for smaller government & that is the cornerstone of conservatism. It's too bad that most Republican politicians these days don't understand that.

13 posted on 11/27/2007 6:19:25 AM PST by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Sec. of Defense, Dir. of Homeland Security - or Vice President!)
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To: OCCASparky
Here we are peeved about RINOs yet Guiliani still leads?

It depends on what you mean by leads. Giuliani can only get about 25% to 30% of the vote. In 2000, McCain received 33% of the primary votes. That means the other candidates are getting 70% to 75% of the vote. Can Rudy win enough delegates to win on the first ballot. I don't think so, which is why he won't get the nomination.

14 posted on 11/27/2007 6:23:12 AM PST by kabar
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Rely on idiot Polls and what do you get? Idiot statistics formed by idiot polling idiots!


15 posted on 11/27/2007 6:27:30 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: rockinqsranch

Agreed!


16 posted on 11/27/2007 6:28:08 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: alicewonders

He’s not for smaller government, he’s for anarchy, no government, no national defense, no foreign policy, etc.

Nothing conservative about that...

You and I are for smaller less intrusive government and lower taxes, which mostly means, end the social spending by restoring some form of moral self-restraint.


17 posted on 11/27/2007 6:30:57 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: kabar

Correct, so long as the 70% opposed to Rudy agree on who to support. If the column is right and it comes down to Thompson vs. Giuliani, will that 70% line up behind Thompson?


18 posted on 11/27/2007 6:32:49 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

It will be either Thompson or Romney. I expect McCain to throw his support behind Giuliani [his ideological soul mate] or Thompson, his personal friend. Huckabee is a wild card given his being a conservative on social issues and a liberal on the economy and immigration. I believe we are going to have a brokered convention with no candidate having enough delegates to win on the first ballot.


19 posted on 11/27/2007 6:50:48 AM PST by kabar
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It will be very interesting to see who Hunter, Tancredo and McCain endorse.

Thompson really does need to get much more agressive at this stage. Thursday night will be very telling as to his sense of what needs to happen, if he is to begin to lock in conservative support.


20 posted on 11/27/2007 6:56:15 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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