NJDC CRITICIZES KUCINICH FOR SAYING HE'D CONSIDER RON PAUL AS VP

National Jewish Democratic Council ^ | 11-28-07

[mnehring]

Duke also endorsed GHWB

No one has yet to prove this. If memory serves me correctly, Duke actually supported Buchanan.

[John D]

Should be fun to listen to what the Paul supporters here have to say.

They will deny it ever happened, just like they continue to deny cut and run blamed America for 9/11.

[mnehring]

..at that, just to add a little more to it, many people, such as William Carter, who worked headed Buchanan’s South Carolina campaign was taken right from David Duke’s presidential run. He held the same position w/ Duke and Buchanan.

http://www.realchange.org/buchanan.htm

[John D]

not sure Ron Paul is interested in playing VP with him

Probably not, Dennis Kucinich would not be anti-American enough for cut and run.

[RockinRight]

“Rep. Paul has even gone so far as to call the Israel government ‘evil,’” continued Forman.

So do most Democrats yet Jews still support them...

[Revolting cat!]

They can nominate each other for the VP spot of the corner grocery store!

[SJackson]

Even the ADL acknowledges that virtually every GOP major (Paul not being major) leader has condemned Duke and his ideology. In Dukes successful 1989 campaign for the Louisiana House, he was condemned by both Reagan and Bush I, the latter sent his son, GWB, to Louisiana to campaign for Dukes Republican opponent. It's a nonsensical arguement, Paul can't do what virtually all Republicans have done, condemn hate. His supporters should simply live with that.

An article in the Gulf News advertising Duke's lecture in Bahrain refers to him as a "former U.S. Senator" and "a mainstream politician" who is a member of the Republican Party. In reality, Duke was never a U.S. Senator. He held a seat representing his local area in the Louisiana State Legislature and was repudiated by virtually every major GOP leader, including President George Bush.

[RKV]

The MoveOn crowd isn’t the “hate community?” Hah hah. As for comfortable with the co-called “hate community,” what makes you think that? And (anticipating your argument) you’re a hypocrite if you don’t require the same standards to your favorite candidate.

[SJackson]

The MoveOn crowd isn’t the “hate community?” Hah hah. As for comfortable with the co-called “hate community,” what makes you think that? And (anticipating your argument) you’re a hypocrite if you don’t require the same standards to your favorite candidate.

You bet they are, as is KOS. And dem candidates are properly criticized for the association. The dem answer, as you'll note from the Mark Kirk experience, is that we (dems) criticize our haters, which they sometimes do, but that Republicans won't criticize hate amongst their own, which in fact Republicans do. Still, it's an effective tactic.

I've no problem criticizing KOS, MoveOn, Stormfront, Natvan, Don Black, Willis Carto, Will Williams, Council of Conservative Citizens et al, and expect any candidate I'll vote for to reject their support.

If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

I certainly hope your condemnations are as expansive as mine, else the hypocrite charge is your reflection in the mirror.

[mnehring]

This morning on Fox and Friends, Paul said he doesn’t have the right to criticize what people who support him with his freedom(sic) platform, do with their freedom. He was talking about the Bunny Ranch directly, but indirectly I wonder if that was a blanket statement about all these controversial supporters.

In a nutshell, he’ll take your money and not criticize what you do, even if you are a pimp or a nazi.

[mnehring]

In a nutshell, he’ll take your money and not criticize what you do, even if you are a pimp or a nazi.

Maybe I should clarify that.. He won't criticize what you do if you donate to him.. if you, however, just want to defend this country from Islamic Terrorists, then he'll have a field day criticizing you.

[SJackson]

In a nutshell, he’ll take your money and not criticize what you do, even if you are a pimp or a nazi...Maybe I should clarify that.. He won't criticize what you do if you donate to him.. if you, however, just want to defend this country from Islamic Terrorists, then he'll have a field day criticizing you.

Consistancy would require Paul and his supporters to cease criticism of anyone exercising their freedom to express their views, which we know doesn't happen. Typical cult behaivior, drinkers of the kool aid are exempt from criticism, outsiders are inherently wrong.

[hunter112]

He’s getting money from somewhere. There are signs all over the place in Vancouver, Wash.

I was there this last weekend, and saw them. They were sprouting up in South Carolina, as well.

I'm disappointed to read this, I really hoped the Kook would become the antiwar antiHillary candidate. But his embrace of a Republican dooms him to the permanent sidelines.

I guess that helps Barry O, so it's not a totally bad thing...

[lormand]

Defeating people who want you sterilized, dead, or converted surely trumps things like legalizing prostitution, crack, illegal immigrants, etc.

[jmc813]

I guess Abe Forman was getting nostalgic for the sight of his name in print.

The sausage king of Chicago?

[Dinsdale]

FYI

‘The Monster Raving Loony Party’ is alive and well in the USA without Kucinich or Paul (Google for it). Last time I’d heard they had run thousands of candidates nationwide (well thousands of campaigns anyway), never won a race. Which is surprising, apparently they make sure their is at least one opposition candidate.

They could even go for the nomination. I’m not sure how they’re going to select a nominee this year. You never know with that bunch: drinking contest, stuffing marshmallows up their orifices, silly walk contest, etc? I’d say it was both Paul’s and Kucinich’s best chance of a nomination.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I thought the MRLP was solely a British invention. I had never heard of them running any candidates on our shores (if they did, it’s never showed up in any of my research for candidates). Of course, while they may be in it for the genuine silliness of it all, Prawn & Kookcinich are true believers in their own insanity.

[Dinsdale]

People with time on their hands...

I’ve considered running for dog catcher or something similar myself (Campaign slogan, ‘Leave the dogs alone, were going to change our focus and title to “Cat Catchers”’). Maybe when I’m older and have time on my hands. Then again I don’t know of any place where dog catcher is an elected position.

I do wish the MRLP was more together. You should be able to register as MRLP. Make your scorn for both parties obvious. I’d say the MRLP would draw half the registered Libertarians.

[Mtner77]

First of all, let me state that I am absolutely ANTI Ron Paul! I can not for the life of me understand how anyone could even CONSIDER voting for that nutter!

That being said, something you stated earlier bothers me greatly.

....”Giuliani was thoroughly dealt with here. At this time, an aggressive foreign policy to deal with the middle east trumps all other issues”....

I strongly disagree! I am known as a “single issue voter”. There is one issue that I judge all candidates by. My second amendment rights. And Rudy is by far the weakest GOP candidate on the 2A. He is seemingly proud of his gun-grabbing in NYC. When it comes to the 2A there is VERY little difference between Rudy and Hillary (or the other idiot Dems for that matter). My jury is still out on Mitt and Fred but I WILL NOT ever support Rudy no matter what his “foreign policy” is.

[MinnesotaLibertarian]

Two of the most anti-Israel Congressmen in the nation.

I want pro-American Congressmen. I don't care about Israel. A lot of Americans feel that way, but will never say so out loud. I think Ron Paul makes a valid point - the Israeli lobby is the one group that seems to everyone is afraid to criticize. To be clear, "Israeli lobby" doesn't mean all Jewish people - it means the people who are lobbying our government to get military and financially involved where it's really not in our interest.

Everyone on this board seems to make a big deal about whether somebody "supports Israel" - can anybody give me a reason why I should care? It just seems to be blindly accepted.