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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #10 – St. Petersburg 11/28/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 11/28/2007 3:59:54 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture

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To: Gondring
Actually, we do use [or at least did] waterboarding in training US troops. I went through something similar in SERE training prior to going to Vietnam. During the POW phase, I was suspended by my feet [hands tied behind my back] over a barrel of water and dipped repeatedly to get me to sign a confession. I was also put into a box the size of a footlocker for several hours, cutting off most of the circulation to my legs from the waist down. Several people were broken because they were claustrobic.

The Geneva Convention wasn't observed by the North Koreans, the North Vietnamese, the Iraqis under Saddam, etc. We are dealing with a terrorist group, a non-state actor, that abides by no rules and could legally be summarily shot.

Do you believe we should abide completely by the Geneva Convention in how we treat AQ?

2,661 posted on 11/29/2007 5:30:50 AM PST by kabar
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To: McGruff
McGruff wrote: Gen. Keith Kerr is a CNN plant, he has been on CNN talking about this before.. I went back an checked. I think you were the first one to have any evidence of this other than just the accusation that he was a plant. Congrats.

I am just glad the mantle of truth was picked up that CNN is exposed for trying to give the impression that they are objective Journalist, but instead are corrupt and without scruples... so typical of the Clinton Years, it was a given they were plants by CNN and Hillary, even before the evidence came forth. I can not go back to those Clinton Years... The Long trail of Obstruction and Justice they left behind, should not be repeated.

2,662 posted on 11/29/2007 5:37:37 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: kabar
Do you believe we should abide completely by the Geneva Convention in how we treat AQ?

If American lives are at stake, I don't care if we set the mofo on fire to get info.

2,663 posted on 11/29/2007 5:39:38 AM PST by Pistolshot (Never argue with stupid people, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: Pistolshot
If American lives are at stake, I don't care if we set the mofo on fire to get info.

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Agree completely.

2,664 posted on 11/29/2007 5:43:00 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pistolshot

Agree completely, especially as it pertains to AQ. They can behead Americans on videos and we blather about human rights. This is not the same America that fire bombed Tokyo, Dresden, and Hamburg killing hundreds of thousands of civilians not to mention the atomic bomb attacks against Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Of course, that is the last war we won unconditionally.


2,665 posted on 11/29/2007 5:47:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: diverteach

Nah - then we would have had President OJ (or so the joke goes)...


2,666 posted on 11/29/2007 6:10:17 AM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: SHEENA26

“The lib media are promoting Huckabee because they know he’ll guarantee a DEM win. I get the distinct impression that they’re really, really afraid of Romney.”

I like Romney, myself, better than most of the other candidates, and think he has a great shot to win the Presidency. I think he has some credibility problems, however.

But I don’t really buy into the claim that the media wants Huckabee to win because he would be defeated. Even if it were true that the media has such dubious intentions, it would be based upon a miscalculation, because I am certain Huckabee would blow away Clinton in a National election for one simple reason: He has MUCH MORE charisma than she does. He is likeable, she is not. And this is a quality that goes beyond anything to do with specific issues. On the issues, Clinton would probably be more in line with where our nation has been heading, politically. But she doesn’t have the winning personality of her husband or Reagan. Huckabee HAS that quality.


2,667 posted on 11/29/2007 6:33:41 AM PST by bdeaner ("...what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this sh_t and it's over.")
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To: Preachin'; Clara Lou; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932140/posts


2,668 posted on 11/29/2007 6:44:00 AM PST by mission9 (It ain't bragging if you can do it.)
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To: mission9

Okay. A lot of nuts like Ron Paul. That makes him neither electable, nor the best choice.

At every election some fringe candidate comes out and shake his tail feathers, and we are supposed to believe this is a new thing. Recent memory shows us Nader and Perot.

The only thing Nader blessed us with was taking votes away from Gore, and well... we know what Perot did to us.

Just because Ron Paul can draw a crowd does not make him the better candidate. He’ll blow over, and in four years we get to go through the same crap again.


2,669 posted on 11/29/2007 7:09:27 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: mnehrling
OMG, My previous post was a joke but I decided to look him up... Mr. Leroy Brooks is a Paultard Stormfronter-

Didn't see any real indication of that at the link, but it would fit. Hard to keep up with these long threads.

2,670 posted on 11/29/2007 7:20:46 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: gas_dr

Seriously, the response would be “General, I believe it would be best if our soldiers continued to focus on the mission with the same self-discipline you showed over 40 years of service”


2,671 posted on 11/29/2007 7:30:15 AM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: Just A Nobody

“Hunter always looks and sounds good — but he can’t win the nomination.
You know...I see and hear this all the time. What I have not seen nor heard is WHY NOT?”

Because, unfortunately, the nomination of the two major parties is about 99 percent preordained. Good case in point: who ever heard of Bill Clinton before he was nominated — and he was the front runner almost all the way to the nomination. Clinton and his operatives did the grass roots work years before he ran. Ditto with Pres. Bush, and I could go on.

The only thing that makes Hilliary a little more vulnerable with the Dems this time, is that she’s a woman and that Bill would be in the white house on her apron strings. She is still the Dem pick. She won’t be president. I wouldn’t be too surprised if the drops out before the general election and Edwards gets the nom. by default.

Guiliani is the flavor of the 2008 election pols and only has real competition from Romney, who has a great political organization and is squeaky clean. All the others are running for the second spot.

With all that said, Hunter would be a great VEEP or in a high level cabinet post.

Remember, a candidate does not have to win the popular vote to win the race.

Look for Charlie Crist on the GOP horizon along with Jeb Bush — maybe 2012 or 2016.


2,672 posted on 11/29/2007 7:55:05 AM PST by varina davis
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To: tear gas

I don’t know that Rudy did anything worth talking about on 911.

^^^^^

It was the executive ability of Giuliani that had competent officials in place before the attacks, or quickly recruited after the attacks, that got NYC back up and running in miraculous time.

When things go smoothly, they look easy. People do not even recognize when things are done well, because the effort is not very visible. Consider the complexity of administration involved just in supporting the people working on the rubble and removing it all from the heart of the financial district, while commerce resumed.

Just consider what has happened to the hole in the ground in Manhattan since Bloomberg took over, as one example of an executive who cannot get things done.


2,673 posted on 11/29/2007 8:03:36 AM PST by maica
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To: exit82

I gave $100 and many of my friends and nearly everyone in our local ron paul meetup gave. We are small but passionate. Actually, not so small anymore.. :)


2,674 posted on 11/29/2007 8:06:47 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: exit82

Also, many here on FR gave $$ that day, read those threads and people were talking about it.


2,675 posted on 11/29/2007 8:07:19 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

My sister was in the audience in St. Pete and sat behind Mitt Romney’s sons. She called in to Bill Bennett’s show this morning to give feedback from the perspective of an attendee — was on with him for about 15 minutes, I guess. She told me that when that gay military guy’s (Hillary’s plant) mic went dead for that short time, the audience was applauding.


2,676 posted on 11/29/2007 8:09:23 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Where did CNN find a Gay General? Yikes!

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He is part of the Hillary campaign. Seriously!


2,677 posted on 11/29/2007 8:09:42 AM PST by maica
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To: NautiNurse
So who do you think won?

I am seriously going to have to reevaluate my past hatred for McCain.

2,678 posted on 11/29/2007 8:11:16 AM PST by JRochelle (Thanks to RomneyCare, abortions in MA are at the reduced price of only $50.00!)
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To: Fudd Fan

That man worked has ass off and did not sleep for several weeks after 9/11. Maybe it’s because I live in the metro NYC area so I saw this.

Rudy is way down on my list of choices, but reducing his leadership and performance in the wake of 9/11 to cartoonish mockery makes me see red.

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I am just getting to this thread today, so I second your remarks. See my #2673


2,679 posted on 11/29/2007 8:13:31 AM PST by maica
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To: incindiary
It's frustrating, and it's sooooooooo typical of the debates with the so-called "top-tier"

As I noted in post 162, as usual, Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo are placed at the far ends of the stage. The so-called "top-tier" and always in the center and that's where the most attention, interaction, and "fireworks" occurs. For a supposedly random placement, it's highly suspect how this continually happens.

As I noted in the previous debate from October 21st, Duncan Hunter got only four questions in a 90-minute debate, and the same for Tancredo. I didn't count Paul's questions, but don't think he had much face time either. Of course, as usual, the focus was on the so-called "top-tier" candidates by the allegedly-conservative FoxNews (motto: we decide who you choose)

Then Alan Keyes got zero questions in these last few debate. Oh, that's right, the gatekeepers deemed him not worthy of sharing the stage with the anointed ones.

So in this debate we get "treated" to a Rudy-Romney catfight on illegal immigration/sanctuary cities in which neither candidate has any credibility on the subject. Bah. But at least some YouTuber brought up the NAU which I'm glad Ron Paul was able to go after (I wished other candidates had their shot at the question too)

2,680 posted on 11/29/2007 8:24:12 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes 2008)
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