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Immigration stance may be what turns many red states blue says LINDA CHAVEZ
The Dallas Morning News ^ | October 8, 2007 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 12/02/2007 3:32:48 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

Republicans need all the votes they can get next November if they are to have any hope of retaining the White House and winning back control of Congress. But one group of voters – among whom the GOP has gained considerable ground over the last few elections – now seems about to slip away, perhaps permanently.

Hispanic voters are poised to turn several red states blue come 2008, virtually guaranteeing a Democratic presidential victory and a pickup in congressional seats as well, according to a new analysis of Hispanic voting behavior. "Border Wars: The Impact of Immigration on the Latino Vote," released by the conservative Americas Majority Foundation, demonstrates that congressional Republicans' ham-handed approach to immigration will cost them dearly at the polls.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; collaborators; crimaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; invaders; lindachavez; purplestates; quislings
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To: Clintonfatigued

EVERY legal immigrant whom I know is mad at the Republican Party - for not taking a STRONGER stance against illegal immigration!

It is pure racism to associate legal hispanic immigrants with illegals and to assume that legal hispanic immigrants side with illegal immigration. Of course, that’s what I expect out of the left, so there are no surprises here.

BTW, there is one way Chavez may be right: If illegals vote in sufficient numbers, then the Donks will win some of these states. But the Donks wouldn’t stoop to such illegal activity and voter fraud, would they? /sarc


41 posted on 12/02/2007 4:41:04 PM PST by piytar
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To: Clintonfatigued
I think that Chavez is correct- illegal aliens are contributing
to the Democrats’ electoral victories in histocially unfriendly territory.


I won't be suprised if we someday find that contributions from
grateful illegals, coyotes and drug runners have kept the RNC
from running dry on contributions.
Yeah, I know that's a 'beyond the fringe' thought.
42 posted on 12/02/2007 4:41:59 PM PST by VOA
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To: Clintonfatigued

She’s as bad as geraldo. She calls anybody who opposes illegal immigration a “racist”. I lost all respect for her when she went race-baiter.


43 posted on 12/02/2007 4:43:03 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: capt. norm

Believe what you want, and sound like a DUer doing it, as if “I believe” is the pinnacle of logic.

Facts are facts, no matter what you want to believe.


44 posted on 12/02/2007 4:43:13 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Will88
I wrote Chavez off as anyone to take seriously last summer when
she came out with her ridiculous accusations and slurs against those
who want immigration laws enforced.


I agree.
And suspect that's why this article is linked from The Dallas
Morning News (pretty liberal/nutty for Texas)
45 posted on 12/02/2007 4:44:23 PM PST by VOA
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To: Clintonfatigued

On Fox News, after the YouTube debate they had a focus group and were analyzing reactions to candidates speeches. Whenever anyone made a pro-illegal comment, reactions were poor.


46 posted on 12/02/2007 4:45:10 PM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Americans should start a fund to have the immigration laws enforced....
Please contact Americans to Remove the Illegals at
NO-AMNESTY Get er done for less, is our motto. No home flights, Buses will do just fine. We even weld up the screens to keep the driver and guards separated from the criminals. OSHA does keep making us keep the back-door, on the bus, unlocked. It hard to keep 'em on the bus, when we stop. Believe me, our organization is working on that. All donations accepted..... (DO NOT CALL, it's a fake number for all who find themselves in Rio-Taco). I tried to make a funny....didn't suceed.....
47 posted on 12/02/2007 4:46:34 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: Cold Heat

“I’’m afraid the return to 30 years in the minority wilderness is certain because of what has been done by conservatives acting out in a populist manner with no thought to the consequences. They even called what they were doing....principled. But don’t they all. History is replete with principled political stupidity.”

If the Republican returns to 30 years in the minority wilderness, they will have been ‘led’ there by Jorge Bush and Karl Rove, and their stupid forcing of the amnesty/open borders issue. Jorge tried to get this through the House since 2001, and was turned back year-after-year. Polls have shown for years that 70% plus of US citizens are opposed to the non-enforcement of immigration policies, and even the high, 1,000,000+, legal immigration. Bush and Rove were fools to continue pushing their amnesty nonsense when the majority of all US citizens so clearly did not want it. It is they who have damaged the party, and they will be responsible for whatever happens in the next few elections. How stupid of them to force and force such a divisive issue, especially with so little likelihood that poor, new immigrants will become Republicans.

As I said, 70% plus of US citizens have opposed what Jorge/Rove wanted since 1986 and before. There is still an unanswered question: will the voters finally make immigration their vote deciding issue? If so, Republicans will have surprising success in 2008. If not, the stupidity of Jorge and Rove will be largely to blame for any hard times that befall Republicans.

“See you at the bill signing.”


48 posted on 12/02/2007 4:51:17 PM PST by Will88
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To: Clintonfatigued

The ‘study’ she cites uses Randy Graf as an example, without pointing out that the RNC campaigned for one of his opponents IN THE PRIMARY, and withheld funding during the general election.

I’m guessing we would also have fewer Republicans in office if the RNC regularly aided the Democrats.

In news accounts, Graf was portrayed as someone who would pull mothers and babies out of their homes at midnight and beat them before tossing them over the border. It takes money to oppose this slander - but instead, the RNC encouraged it!

I will never, ever give a penny to the RNC again. And examples like this bias the report.


49 posted on 12/02/2007 4:51:22 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is the Kama Sutra of Republican politics. Huckabee is Sandra Day O'Connor.)
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To: Xenalyte
Believe what you want, and sound like a DUer doing it, as if “I believe” is the pinnacle of logic.

Facts are facts, no matter what you want to believe.

In other words, you think the pro-illegal immigration forces will turn this election over to the liberals?

I don't think so. Watch what happens.

50 posted on 12/02/2007 4:55:27 PM PST by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: capt. norm

No, I’m saying that what you feel and believe are irrelevant. What you know - i.e., what’s based on provable facts - that’s admissible.


51 posted on 12/02/2007 4:58:05 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

NOT TRUE: Many legal immigrants dispise Illigal immigration and they and their decendents are sophisiticated enough to tell the difference between anti-illigal immigration (enforcing the law) and anti-hispanic racism; in fact I’ll go one further and say that they RESPECT pro-sovereignty anti-illigal immigration Republican Pols..It may also draw in any democrats that are dissaffected because of their nation party’s leaders stance on the issue which is pro-illigal. Union workers, blacks, and reagan democratic whites may make up for any loss the republicans gain and then some..!
(Wasn’t it a recent poll lately that showed 70% of likely voters are against drivers liscences’ for illigals?)..?


52 posted on 12/02/2007 4:58:10 PM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: moondoggie
She accused "anti-illegal alien" people of being racists. She may have used the word "anti-immigration", but a lot of legal immigrants are also anti-illegal aliens ~ particularly if the influx of the illegals has reduced the chances of their own relatives getting entry as legal immigrants, which it has.

Besides, Chavez is another one of the politicians who thinks it's punishment to be returned to Mexico. Best she be kept away from the resort beaches too.

53 posted on 12/02/2007 4:59:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Clintonfatigued

Linda Chavez, Mel Martinez, Lindsay Graham, etc., all need to retire from public life.


54 posted on 12/02/2007 5:00:29 PM PST by devere
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To: freekitty
Short term relief from the ravages of menapause?
55 posted on 12/02/2007 5:01:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Clintonfatigued

With the name Chavez she is naturally inclined to support her fellow birds of a feather.

Illegal immigrants are changing our demographics considerably. If America is to survive, we have to get a grip on illegal immigration and very soon. At no time in history has a group of ethnic immigrants been given the power to throw the balance of power in DC and America.
If the flood gate is not closed, and the illegals deported, and employers giving shelter and comfort and jobs prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, America is finished. Cooked. Done.


56 posted on 12/02/2007 5:02:22 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Here in Florida, most of the immigrants from Cuba who played by the rules and became citizens the legal way, are livid about those who would sneak in and break the laws of their newly adopted country.

They appreciate the illegals about the way we appreciate someone who shoves in ahead of us in a ticket line.

These legal immigrants did it the hard way and were sincere about becoming U.S. citizens...and they're proud of it.

I don't think the libs should be counting their chickens just yet.

57 posted on 12/02/2007 5:02:58 PM PST by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: pabianice

>> I admire Chavez but

She uses nasty rhetoric on the issue of illegal immigration attacking those who don’t agree with her liberal policies.


58 posted on 12/02/2007 5:05:11 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: devere

We really don’t expect Lindsey to be interested in those beach whores at the Mexican resorts, so what is his focus?


59 posted on 12/02/2007 5:05:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Xenalyte
No, I’m saying that what you feel and believe are irrelevant.

That kinda' takes away a lot of the fun on this forum.

It is, after all, a forum, and we all speak our piece, and that could easily be something we happen to believe.

Not to get all righteous on you but my entire religion is based on belief/faith and it works for me.

60 posted on 12/02/2007 5:08:51 PM PST by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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