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Sudan president pardons British teacher (Teddy bear named 'Muhammad' incident)
Associated Press ^ | December 3, 2007

Posted on 12/03/2007 1:09:21 AM PST by HAL9000

KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) — Sudan's president on Monday agreed to pardon a British teacher jailed here after she allowed her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad, British politician Lord Nazir Ahmed said.

Ahmed and another Muslim representative from Britain's House of Lords, Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, met with Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir Monday at his presidential palace to plead for Gillian Gibbons' pardon.

"The president has told us he has already signed the papers for her pardon," Ahmed told reporters.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; sudan; teddybear
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1 posted on 12/03/2007 1:09:24 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

I’ll relax when she lands in England. But, even then, she’s never going to be safe.

Some Muzzie fanatic is going to consider her a soft target and his sure ticket to paradise.


2 posted on 12/03/2007 1:11:00 AM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Ronin
Good points.

One other point - this teacher was quoted the other day saying she wished to remain as a teacher in Sudan after she is released from jail. Someone from the British Embassy needs to explain to her that she is leaving Sudan and never coming back. They may need to revoke her passport or something.

3 posted on 12/03/2007 1:16:01 AM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: HAL9000

It is good to know that at least one Sudanese has a modicum of common sense.


4 posted on 12/03/2007 1:19:30 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
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To: HAL9000

:”this teacher was quoted the other day saying she wished to remain as a teacher in Sudan after she is released from jail. Someone from the British Embassy needs to explain to her that she is leaving Sudan and never coming back.”

any comment from jail in sudan released to the public is presumably made under duress.


5 posted on 12/03/2007 1:20:22 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: HAL9000
Maybe Muhammed the Teddy Bear can get some good lovin' from this politically incorrect lil fuzzy tart:
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I give this post about 15 minutes...lol
6 posted on 12/03/2007 1:22:44 AM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: mkjessup
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7 posted on 12/03/2007 1:49:19 AM PST by musicman
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To: musicman

hoe hoe hoe!


8 posted on 12/03/2007 1:52:29 AM PST by ari-freedom (Any theory can appear to explain facts if the theory has enough variables.)
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To: HAL9000

Gotta question, boys and girls............
Do ANY of you, anyone at all........
Think that this has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with somebody’s stuffed animal and the name given it?

Really?


9 posted on 12/03/2007 5:22:28 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: Flintlock

I agree. This had very little to do with the ‘insult’ and much more about politics. Hardliners within the Sudanese government saw this as an opportunity to gain support from the masses, or at the very least gain some insight into their loyalties.

As it happens, the fact that she was imprisoned has turned back on Sudan, and left them with a problem. Continue to hold her for the 2 weeks and bear the brunt of international pressure, or release her and appear weak to hardliners.

I’m glad that she has been released. She was never in any serious danger, with her being a British subject Sudan would have been in danger had she not been returned in the very best of health.


10 posted on 12/03/2007 6:19:57 AM PST by Rikstir
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To: Flintlock
Of course not. The PTB in the Sudan thought it would be a fine opportunity to demonstrate western (and nonmoslem in general) helplessness by forcing the UK (and the west in general) to grovel for this woman's release. They wanted to send a message to their people (and moslems in general) that islam is in ascendence and islamic states can do exactly as they please without any repercussions whatsoever. No doubt their next act will be to demand yet again that the UN pass a law forbidding criticism of religions or religious figures-basically trying to globalize sharia's stance on depictions of and discussions of mohammad via the UN.That ordinary Sudanese went on the typical moslem rampage over what the children in her class voted to name a toy merely proves how easily manipulable and intellectually inferior are moslems in general.

I do hope the UK retaliates against the Sudan, once this woman is safely back in the UK. I also hope the woman does not disgrace herself by any praising of the Sudanese once she's back on British soil.

11 posted on 12/03/2007 6:22:47 AM PST by Verloona Ti (capitalization or lack thereof is an editorial comment, not an error.)
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To: HAL9000
I went to some UK sites to see how the British people are reacting. Look what's on the front page at the BBC site:

Added: Monday, 3 December, 2007, 14:00 GMT 14:00 UK

The level of ignorance in this debate amazes me. The amount of people who have decided that Islam is an evil, oppressive religion is staggering. I'd like to bet that the main source these people have to thank for their views are the likes of the Sun. Islam is a tolerant, compassionate religion, with many of the same humanitarian views as Christianity and Judaism (respect, dignity etc.) The fact that an authoritative group choses to warp some teachings of a religion to fulfil its own needs should not cause a bad reflection of the religion. May I point out the Christian Crusades, witch hunts and the blind eye turned during the Holocaust? Katie, Newbury

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What will it take to make the dhimmified leftists of the west wake the **** up???!!!???!!

12 posted on 12/03/2007 7:00:19 AM PST by Verloona Ti (capitalization or lack thereof is an editorial comment, not an error.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

“Islam an insult to humanity” ping.


13 posted on 12/03/2007 11:36:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, November 30, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Verloona Ti
What will it take to make the dhimmified leftists of the west wake the **** up???!!!???!!

The descending axe.
14 posted on 12/03/2007 11:42:26 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: mkjessup
Vermont Teddy Bear Company to Discontinue It's Muhammad Line
15 posted on 12/03/2007 2:19:43 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: HAL9000

The immediate pardon was due to the fact that she would have been lynched if she stayed another day ini Sudan.


16 posted on 12/03/2007 2:27:07 PM PST by joebuck
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To: SunkenCiv

While we’re focused on the Teddy Bear idiocy at least we are not talking about this:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/FredNerks/darfur_villages_0802_2004.jpg?t=1196676800

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/06_kalma_camp_hp.jpg

The arabs didn’t bomb the indigenous peoples out of their villages to stand by and watch as the West sends in aid to feed them...

The episode was nothing but an opportunity to tell the West stay out of Sudan.


17 posted on 12/03/2007 2:36:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: HAL9000

http://platform.blogs.com/passionofthepresent/2004/07/engineering_a_g.html

Engineering a genocide in Sudan
The situation is Dafur is a crime, not merely a “humanitarian crisis.” The so-called “crisis” was engineered by the government of Sudan, to protect its power.

The aim of this crime is to eliminate—for all practical purposes—a black population that was becoming a thorn in the side of the government. The government’s concern is that this population might become an effective political force, like that in the South, and ultimately demand a share of the oil revenues that fund the government, its leaders, and their economic allies.

Engineered social collapse is the method of genocide being used by the Sudanese government in Darfur. Engineered social collapse is well-understood, tried-and-true, having been used many times before in African nations including—in previous periods—by the Sudanese government itself.

Three steps are necessary to accomplish this crime—each of which is clearly displayed in Darfur:

1. Mobilize racial and ethnic hatred against the target victims, and promote violent, terrorizing attacks against the population to be eliminated. This mobilization can be accomplished in weeks, assuming there is an underlying mythology of hatred between groups, combined with political organizations who will make the genocide happen. In Sudan this has been accomplished through the military in combination with Arab militias

From the Guardian:

“The government was putting forward a programme of arming for all the people. I called our sons and told them to become armed.

“Our sons acquiesced and joined the Border Intelligence [a paramilitary force]. Some went into the Popular Defence Force [another militia].”

2. Destroy the ecological, social, and economic base of the target population. This requires a few months. In the genocide against the black population of Darfur, active destruction of livelihood started in earnest last winter. See the USAID satellite photos.

3. Allow starvation and disease to take its toll, usually over a period of many months. Genocidal leaders know that once the conditions of mass mortality are set in train, there is little that can be done to stop the main thrust of the genocide. See Eric Reeves’ detailed analysis of the coming catastrophe, illustrated by a USAID timeline detailing estimated mortality over the next two years. Next October-December “Crude Mortality Rates” are projected to reach a level 20 times the emergency threshold (see exhibit above, or this pdf).

The special attractiveness of this method is that a genocidal government can initiate the collapse through a short, intensive campaign of terror lasting just a few months, and then sit back as the results unfold.

At the later stages a genocidal government can even ask the international community for “help”—knowing full well that adequate help—including military protection for victims—is unlikely to be offered and in any case can be rejected under one pretext or another.

For example, international humanitarian organizations can be allowed in, at least on a limited basis, because they are unable to stem the overall social collapse affecting the victims. A typical NGO, for example, may be able to help dispense water purification tablets and help people dig latrines in the camps, but it cannot supply the tons of food required to stave off starvation, nor can it contend with armed raiders who continue to terrorize the population.

The only effective remedy is one carried out on a massive scale, the “moral equivalent of war” to stop the raiding, stabilize the surviving people, and resettle and reestablish the victimized population in conditions where they can once again thrive on their own. This requires a combination of peacekeeping forces, large-scale feeding under the auspices of the World Food Program, and resettlement and reconciliation initiatives carried out over a period of years. The experience of Rwanda, by the way, shows that reconciliation can be accomplished, but only with profound attention by leadership and the community of survivors.

(from 2004)


18 posted on 12/03/2007 2:50:43 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: HAL9000

http://www.sudan.net/news/posted/15550.html

Sudan President Criticizes Western Interference, Says Ready For War


[ Latest News From Sudan At Sudan.Net ]


News Article by AP posted on November 18, 2007 at 01:15:29: EST (-5 GMT)

Sudan President Criticizes Western Interference, Says Ready For War

Sudanese soldiers march during a ceremony for the 18th anniversary of the national Public Defence Forces in Madani.

KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP)— Sudan’s government doesn’t want war but is ready for it, President Omar al-Bashir warned Saturday during a rare show of public support for a paramilitary force accused of atrocities in the western Sudanese region of Darfur.

“We will not seek war, but if imposed on us we are ready,” al-Bashir told a rally to mark the 18th anniversary of the Popular Defense Forces, a militia he created to fight southern rebels and that has since been unleashed on Darfur.

He also accused western powers backing a 26,000-strong U.N. and African Union force due in Darfur in January of lying about their motives to end four years of bloodshed.

“Those Americans, those British, and those Europeans are not keen about the people of Darfur, or the people of southern Sudan or the Sudanese people,” he said.

“They are all liars and hypocrites who are only interested in the riches and resources of Sudan,” al-Bashir told the rally in the town of Medani, some 200 miles south of Khartoum, the capital. His address was broadcast live on national radios.

His allusions to the government’s capacity to wage war came amid souring relations between Arab-dominated northern Sudan and the former rebels from the south of the country. The north-south civil war ended in 2005, but southern Cabinet ministers walked out of the national government last month because they accuse al-Bashir’s regime of violating the peace agreement.

The president said his government wouldn’t seek to spark a new war with the southerners, but warned that those who want to bring war to the north “should bear the consequences.”

Like the ethnic African from the south, Darfur’s Black tribes took arms against Khartoum in 2003 to protest what they describe as decades of discrimination.

The government is accused of retaliating by unleashing militias of Darfur Arab nomads that are blamed for the worst atrocities against civilians in a conflict that has killed over 200,000 people and made 2.5 million refugees.

Many observers say the janjaweed and Khartoum’s Popular Defense Forces units are often one and the same. The government denies this, but the International Criminal Court in the Hague has issued warrants against a janjaweed chief and a Cabinet minister on charges of crimes against humanity and war crimes.

Khartoum resisted for months a U.N. peacekeeping force for Darfur. Under a compromise deal reached earlier this year, the hybrid U.N. and A.U. force must be predominantly African.

Al-Bashir reiterated warnings Saturday that he wouldn’t accept some European nations to take part in the force.

He singled out Scandinavian countries, where some media had reproduced a caricature of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad last year, and said Khartoum wouldn’t allow them to contribute troops.

“Anyone who spoke blasphemously about the Prophet will not set a foot on Sudanese soil,” he said.

(And that includes teachers who allow students to name a Teddy Bear with the most common name in islam! What’s next? A koran in-the-toilet episode, a ‘cartoon’?)


19 posted on 12/03/2007 3:10:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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The proper response, in my view, is to clear Sudan of Moslems. Doing it by proxy makes the most sense, since indigenous resistance movements are legitimized by the UN charter. :’)


20 posted on 12/03/2007 9:08:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, November 30, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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