Teachers Who Bully ( We shouldn't be surprised)

WebMD ^ | December 03, 2007 | Katherine Kam /Charlotte Grayson Mathis, MD

[RinaseaofDs]

I think the metaphor you were searching for, perhaps, is that some teachers have the sensibility of prison guards.

Its a direct response to the fact that parentage has been abandoned to the public school. In many cases, they are no help at all. In many other cases, their behavior is DEFENDED by the psychopath that spawned the little cherub in question.

Give schools the disciplinary tools they need, and you’ll be able to hire better teachers.

For example:

1. Teachers should be able to send disruptive kids to the VP where its dealt with, no questions asked.
2. Expulsions should stick, and shouldn’t penalize the school for the lack of the FTE.
3. Expulsions should result in community service or reassignment to a continuation school.

There are a lot of other issues with school, but all of this horse hockey about humiliation is just sickening.

More manifestations of the ‘Time Out’ school of ‘Self-Esteem Matriculation’

[Tired of Taxes]

"The sadistic teacher hacks on kids in a way that indicates they might get some pleasure from it," he says. That means "humiliating students, hurting students' feelings, and being spiteful."

Sounds like my ninth grade Algebra teacher, my first year in (a Catholic) high school. (No, she was not a nun.) I was an A student in her class, but I was very shy. And that woman constantly humiliated me in front of the whole class. Even the other students in class were upset about it. For the life of me, I cannot remember exactly what she said to me. But other students remembered it for years. Fifteen years later, I met up with one of those students again, and she was still talking about it. She said she used to go home and tell her sister what was being said to me by the teacher in class, and they would cry about it together. I told her, I don't really remember. But I guess that teacher must've been bad if two other people were crying about it... lol.

All I remember is that I became very depressed; I started skipping school, and my grades plummeted to D's and F's the last half of the year. I don't think I passed Algebra. My folks switched me to public school because back then a "60" was an "F" in my Catholic school but a "D" in the public school. And let me tell you about the public school they switched me to: Even the teachers were frightened there. And I had to take the schoolbus from hell. I learned a lot there, though, like most importantly how to scare people off by calling their bluff using the most obscene words imaginable.

I wish homeschooling had been an option back then.

[attiladhun2]

First of all, I was not on his team. Second of all, I flipped him off because he insulted me. Thirdly, my dad threatened to whip his keyster because he and my father were not on good terms even before the incident. Fouthly, you missed the whole point of the story, which is that it is foolish to dwell on negative experiences we all had in school.

[brytlea]

I didn’t miss the point, but you and your dad sound like you have anger issues. I don’t think coaches are obligated to put up with boorish behavior. Kids flipping adults off fits that category. I suspect you don’t tolerate that behavior now, as an adult.
susie

[brytlea]

Just out of curiosity, I did a quick search to see if it was really true that Einstein was a poor student. (Didn't check out Tesla). I found this:

The site will include documents refuting popular beliefs about Einstein. He was not a bad student -- the only subject he flunked was French.

http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2003/05/58869

I think there is more urban legend to that than anything. I suspect that it was quite apparent early on that he was special. Having raised three GT kids, I can tell you, that even if they don't do particularly well in school you can talk to them for a few minutes and know they have quite an intellect.

susie

[attiladhun2]

This was forty years ago and my father is no longer living. Of course I don’t believe children should flip off adults, but I also don’t believe adults in positions of authority ought not to be abusing that authority, as this jv coach did frequently. Since you’re engaging in dimestore analysis, I think I’ll engage in some of my own, why do feel like you have to defend jerks like this coach? Sounds to me you might well have “jerk” issues of your own.

[brytlea]

See, there goes that anger again... ;)
Some people probably do think I’m a jerk, that’s ok with me.
BTW I was not defending the coach. But I thought your comments about your behavior and your Dad’s behavior merited comment. (sorry you lost him, I lost my Mom a number of years ago and I miss her every day.)
Teachers (and coaches) ought to be held to a higher standard of behavior than the average person. However, they are people, and many folks don’t have the temperament to teach (or coach). So, they shouldn’t do it.
susie

[brytlea]

See, there goes that anger again... ;)
Some people probably do think I’m a jerk, that’s ok with me.
BTW I was not defending the coach. But I thought your comments about your behavior and your Dad’s behavior merited comment. (sorry you lost him, I lost my Mom a number of years ago and I miss her every day.)
Teachers (and coaches) ought to be held to a higher standard of behavior than the average person. However, they are people, and many folks don’t have the temperament to teach (or coach). So, they shouldn’t do it.
susie