I don't think it is surprising we see such dysfunctional behavior. It is not normal to treat children this way. In fact, I call it abusive. In more than 150,000 years of human existence we have never done this to children. Our human ancestors, if they could see the huge, modern, factory-like schools ( that look very much like minimum security prisons) that children must endure every day, would be blinking in surprise and confusion that we would do this to children
The author of the study writes that 45% of teachers admitted to bullying. I conclude that the actual incidence is higher.
Please ping homeschool and public school.
Thank you.
Our daughter had a teacher like that in the first grade. She was dreadful.....nicknamed the child Messy Jesse because, well, it rhymes! She duct taped a child to his chair to teach him to sit still. Cruel and mean spirited. And protected by tenure.
We were able to get her away from our child, but not out of the school.
IF YOU DON'T EAT YOUR MEAT, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY PUDDING!!! HOW CAN YOU HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YOU DON'T EAT YOUR MEAT?!?
I agree. Teacher bullying was one of the major reasons I started homeschooling.
The best teacher I ever had, both showed love and discipline. And he did it all while being a great example of both.
He even threw me off of the bleachers once in frustration and he still is head and shoulders above all others.
RIP Mr. Sonneman
I hated them passionately. Forty years later I still feel like spitting when I visualize their faces. Grrrr!
My child has been in the new school with a better teacher for 3 weeks now and the difference has been night and day
Teachers in article bring back terrible memories of the nuns in my elementary school. They slapped kids. Threw a kid at the blackboard which came crashing down. Put kids in the wastepaper basket while mocking them openly for a shirt sticking out of their pants. ...too many disturbing memories
One that I remember to this day is when she had a little boy come up in front of the class and tell everyone how filthy his ears were.
Not kidding. This little kid grew up to become a Vietnam casualty.
One more: a little girl peed in her pants in gym class...and the phys ed teacher had her stand apart from everyone else.
There is a special place in hell for these scumbag teachers.
Get rid of unions.
Memories of first grade. The teacher brought a terrarium to school and asked the class what it was. I was was the only one who answered “terrarium” and was sent to the office for being a “smart-alec”.
I’m colorblind and once colored a dog green in 1st grade. The same teacher held it up and had the whole class laugh at me.
My Mom had some car troubles one week and I was late almost every day that week. The same teacher had the whole class pretend to look at their watches and chide me when I was late...in 1st grade. This from a woman who could not pronounce the three letter word “ask”.
I finally told my Mom about those incidents. I will never forget the look on that woman’s face when my Mom came into class with me and threatened to drag her out in the parking lot and beat the hell out of her.
I didn’t have any more problems after that.
“If children are treated like prisoners in buildings that look like minimum security prisons, if they are marched around like herds of sheep to the sound of Pavlov’s bell, if they are isolated in unnatural same-aged packs, is it any wonder that they form protection gangs ( cliques) and bully?”
Actually, I substitute taught in something like that environment, and in some circumstances, it is not as bad as you think.
This particular school had the reputation of the most troublesome in a large metro area. It really was a “minimum security educational experience”, but it was the opposite of what you might expect. The security was to keep dangerous adults out, and to protect the children in school. It had a squad of security people, a few of whom were armed, and whose main job it was to keep such adults off campus.
Students did not have lockers. They had one set of books for classroom use, and the other set they left at home. Thus no need for backpacks, and so few weapons.
In personality, there were many “normal” students, but there were also both students who felt utterly defeated by their circumstances and desperately needed motivation, and a third group with burning ambition and determination to succeed.
Of course, most of the problems were found in the “defeated” group. In a short time, I steered many of these toward joining the military, and was honest that it was their best chance of ever having a chance. Even those migrating towards gangs realized that it was a dead end and that they would probably be dead before the age of 25, so I didn’t have to use a hard sell.
As a substitute, I was popular with teachers because I looked and acted fearsome. This quickly ended student efforts to pull fast ones, which they did, but left me room to slack off a bit and relax the room when things permitted.
In one class, after the students were at work, I noticed a table with two grossly obese boys at it, too large to fit in ordinary desks, and looking sullen and hostile. I made it a point to approach the angrier of the two, and used a line something like which they had probably heard many times before.
“I used to know a guy who looked like you in high school.”
Typically, such an opener would be used to sneer at them for being obese, and to offer up some obviously stale advice. But I didn’t do that. Instead, I followed up by telling him the true story of the man.
“He and his brother opened a pizza place, which became a chain. They sold it ten years later and made a few million.”
Once that had sunk in, both boys looked utterly perplexed.
For the first time in years, somebody had indirectly suggested that something good might happen to them, that they were not total losers because they were obese. That they still had potential.
Days later, that teacher sought me out and asked what had happened, because both boys had suddenly become interested in school again and were no longer perpetually sulking and angry.
Things like that can happen in “bad” schools, and a lot more often than that much of a difference can be made in a “good” school.
He wasn't even my teacher, unprovked and always performed it on the last kid in line some no one saw him.
I forget his name but can you imagine someone pulling this crap today?
I never told my parents figured I would get in trouble for reporting it.
Scrawny little scumbag, if I could travel back in time he'd get a swift kick in the family Jewels.
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Right - Pavlov’s Classical conditioning and Behaviorism is for dogs, not for humans made in the image of God.
Public schools are not the only place you will see humans being treated like dogs. There is an urgency in the air, humans must be conditioned / homogenized as quickly as possible for the good of all!
There are plenty of dysfunctional churches and church schools dehumanizing people/children also, treating them like dogs to get them to more quickly comply, conform and submit these days - so folks watch out.
There is a new tower of babel to be built and the wolves are everywhere. The falling away is happening faster everyday. Don’t be surprised at how much fun they seem to be having abusing the sheep either - just run as fast as you can before they devour you.
sounds like my high school geometry teacher...
This is an enormous pant load of merde. As if teachers have ANY disciplinary weapons at their disposal any more. You want to see bullying? Sit in the principal’s office with a rabid parent of a budding sociopath.
The Stanford prison experiment should answer that.
Most of the "horror stories" people are relating on this thread appear to be from "the good old days" when we supposedly still had prayer & discipline in schools, and people still got a good education.
According to my friend who went to school in an Asian country, teachers there have no compunctions about humiliating students who act out or don't perform as well as they could.
I'm not advocating cruelty, but this seems to me like a very thinly-veiled touchy-feely liberal educrat article.