Posted on 12/04/2007 2:13:04 PM PST by mdittmar
Moderate Muslims held in coalition detention centers in Iraq are turning in radical Muslim detainees on a daily basis, the deputy commanding general for Multinational Force Iraq detainee operations said yesterday.
Thousands of Muslim detainees identified to coalition forces as extremists have been siphoned from moderate populations and placed in separate confinement areas called modular detainee housing units, Marine Maj. Gen. Douglas Stone said during a conference call with Web journalists.
What we had were moderates who said, Listen, you know, we don't want that (extremist) direction, he said. The moderates will turn in the extremists,
(and) now that we can physically do that, almost every day groups of 50 to 100 to 150 to 200 (detainees) will self-identify the guys, will pull them out.
Describing what he called a moderate revolt, Stone described several instances where middle-of-the-road Muslims actively repudiated Islamic extremism inside the walls of coalition compounds.
The fundamental messaging from the extremists outside who have been reporting about detention and inside is We've lost control; we're losing control, he said. I think they genuinely believed that they had ideological recruiting and training control over the compounds inside the theater internment facilities, and they have genuinely lost it.
Helping to drive the shift away from extremist Islam are Iraqs provincial and tribal leaders, who Stone said set the tone and tenor that radical Muslims should no longer be tolerated in their respective of Iraqi societies.
Stone expressed guarded optimism about recent detainee developments at Multinational Force Iraq, which currently holds 25,188 detainees, including 20,581 Sunnis and 4,562 Shiites.
Since July, coalition forces have released 3,305 detainees. None of those released have been re-detained, and only three have been recaptured for questioning unrelated to insurgent activity, Stone said.
The command is encouraged by the low recapture and recidivist rate, he said. That's a combination of the situation on the ground and the great work of the coalition forces to provide the degree of security.
Furthermore, compared to five weeks ago when troops averaged 61 detentions per day, today the average has dropped to around 40. Detainee releases have remained very constant for the better part of the last two months at 49 a day, Stone added.
The steady flow of releases is in part the result of a new curriculum offered to detainees at coalition compounds, Stone said. The courses include offerings that reinforce basic Islamic tenets such as the sanctity of life and property, loving humanity and avoiding hatred, earning a living, and practicing respect and tolerance for humanity.
It's embedded in its religion, so it needs to put things in the context of the Muslim faith, and that's how they do it, he said. Each one includes in there a Quranic sort of reference to give these guys some reason why it has a lynchpin.
More than 7,000 detainees are enrolled in basic education courses. Roughly 1,000 others are participating in mixed Sunni and Shiite religious discussions led by imams hired by coalition forces, a course that will become mandatory for detainees who have been deemed ready for release.
They are genuinely engaged in a conversation -- a Socratic conversation -- without our presence in there, about the Quran, Stone said of the religious course. They come out understanding the difference between what the extremists have said, or what the extremists have made them memorize, vs. what's actually in the Quran.
Q: What’s a moderate Muslim?
A: A Muslim who’s been waterboarded enough to make him talk.
This would be like Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Turban Dick Durbin, Patrica Bin Murray and the rest of that sorry bunch turning on Al Qaida. Do you think it will ever happen?
Moderate Mussie; Out of Ammo.
How many of Muslim Terrorists are capable of even reading the Quran? Somehow it strikes me that one thing that terrrorism relies upon is a large group of illiterates. Notice how well Muslims are doing recruiting in the US prison system. Likely the US convict/recruit is not quite a scholar, a basic chump who thinks he is streetsmart, and can easily be manipulated.
Mohammed himself was illiterate. The Koran was copied by scribes who thought his ranting was scriptural.
Sayid Ruhullah Musawi Khomeini didn't even start his education until age 15 and wore his functional illiteracy as a badge of honor, i.e. not exposed to any other ideas, therefore not polluted by them.
Yeah. and when the “moderates” are released, will they remain “moderates”? Just rats doing what they can to get out.
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