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Huckabee's Rise Why it happened, what it means.
The Weekly Standard ^ | December 4, 2007 | Dean Barnett

Posted on 12/04/2007 5:09:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

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To: RockinRight
So I’m watching in agony as Fred’s ship is sinking all the while hoping the Rudy is the one that gets wet. Along come Huckabee and for now, a least for me, he’s bailing water.
Hopefully the ship will right itself and we come get behind a Candidate we can ALL SUPPORT, both fiscal and social conservatives.
41 posted on 12/04/2007 7:49:29 PM PST by topfile
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To: topfile
Hopefully the ship will right itself and we come get behind a Candidate we can ALL SUPPORT, both fiscal and social conservatives.

If we don't, we ALL lose.

42 posted on 12/04/2007 7:51:16 PM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: RockinRight
Dobson made a mistake. Too much pride possibly on both sides, don’t really know. But it’s done, both were set-up. I wrote Thompson camp asking them to try to reconcile it and that they needed Dobson. Not to be.
43 posted on 12/04/2007 7:54:04 PM PST by topfile
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To: RockinRight

I wouldn’t even call Hannity a Rudybot. He has morphed into an RNC cheerleader. Anybody with an R next to their name is fine by him. Joseph Stalin (R-Stalingrad) would get airtime and kudos because he is not Hillary.


44 posted on 12/04/2007 8:09:51 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I find it incredible that any thinking pundit takes Huckabee seriously.

Ask yourself: What are the chances that Americans will elect an Evangelical preacher?

This guys doesn't stand a chance in the general election...but it won't stop the evangelical bloc from making their run.

It makes for good theatre and good debate. All of this is VERY HEALTHY for the GOP and for America. Rudy or Fred or Huck or Romney or McCain. All appear to have a slightly different flavor. I have no doubt the GOP will nominate the one who bests represents it's electorate AND I have no doubt most could beat Hillary, IF she gets the nomination. If it's Obama, all would win in a landslide.

I just love the way this party has opened the barn door and is having an OPEN, PUBLIC debate on who we are.

45 posted on 12/04/2007 8:11:31 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Eric Blair 2084
"He has morphed into an RNC cheerleader."

When hasn't he been an RNC cheerleader? I admit that I never heard him when he worked in Atlanta or before he became syndicated, but he's been an RNC cheerleader since I first heard him. The Rudybot stuff is what I find new and what makes him a hypocrite IMO. Fox News and their Rooty tooting by almost all of them is getting on my nerves, but they seem to be infected with the same disease many on FR suffer from - unable to realize that NYC is not the center of the universe and Rudy is definitely not the prescription for fixing the ills in flyover country since that vast expanse between the two coasts is not suffering from BIG BLUE CITY troubles.

46 posted on 12/04/2007 8:31:24 PM PST by penowa
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To: Clintonfatigued

Why?: Chuck Norris’ endorsement.

What it means:

Chuck Norris would be an excellent candidate, for Vice President.


47 posted on 12/04/2007 8:40:20 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: penowa

In fairness to Rudy, he is an effective leader and a pragmatist. I think he knows that what was called for in NYC wouldn’t work in Nebraska.

Having said that, you’re right. Sean will go on a diatribe about Conservative principles of limited Government and personal responsibility for half an hour and then say “We’re going to break, coming up at the top of the hour is Mike Huckabee who will tell us why coercing the sheeple to quit smoking and eat right is a legitimate government function to save Medicare and Medicaid health care costs.”

Or he will go into a monologue about how abortion robs innocent human beings of their life and liberty and then say “Coming up next, Rudy Giuliani will be here to tell us why his promise to elect strict constructionist SCOTUS justices should cover for his NARAL endorsement.”

Frankly, Huck makes me sicker than Rudy. I could almost stomach a Rudy/Thompson ticket. Any ticket with the nanny stater Huck makes me want to puke.


48 posted on 12/04/2007 8:46:32 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Strategerist

>>>Free trade is a pillar of convservatism.<<<

So-called “Free Trade” is a pillar of Marxism.


49 posted on 12/04/2007 8:52:42 PM PST by PhilipFreneau (If Rush Limbaugh truly trashed our military he would be lionized by the left.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Huck & Chuck!


50 posted on 12/04/2007 8:55:53 PM PST by topfile
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My apologies.


51 posted on 12/05/2007 3:31:08 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lou Dobbs obviously hates a true conservative and is a demo or a rino near as I can tell. He certainly is pro illegal immigration as dems and rin’s are.


52 posted on 12/05/2007 3:36:47 AM PST by ohhhh (Republicans are now liberals, Democrats are Marxists. Lord, help conservatives.)
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To: ohhhh

Lou Dobbs is liberal on many issues, but he’s very opposed to illegal aliens.


53 posted on 12/05/2007 5:34:03 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

It will also be because he knows nothing about foreign policy. His statements on Iran, Korea and nukes is pablum. I will support him if he wins the nomination, like I will for all 5 of our guys. But, Mike may be a better VP than Prez. He is not ready for that prime time and will get skunked by the Dems NATIONALLY. Unless , of course, Hil wins the Dem nomination. Actually, I think perhaps all 5 of our guys might beat her.


54 posted on 12/05/2007 9:50:51 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: phillyfanatic

Hitlery is vulnerable and divisive, but she won’t be a push-over. She’s a determined, driven campaigner who will stop at nothing to win. And she benefits from Bush’s unpopularity.


55 posted on 12/05/2007 10:01:14 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: BfloGuy
Huckabee scares me more than Ron Paul -- I'm not exaggerating. That he's doing so well in the polls is terrifying.

Agreed! The two worst presidents in my lifetime have been Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush. Both were governors of large southern states, and both somehow believed that God had called them to lead the country into righteousness...and in both cases with disastrous consequences. (It was Carter's belief in his divine ordination that led him to pursue his reckless policies in the Middle East, and it's been Bush's similar belief that's led him to do similarly.)

The country cannot afford to have another snake-handler, who believes Jesus speaks to him from his morning breakfast burrito, in The Oval Office.

Whatever harm might come, it would ultimately be better for the country to have Hillary in power than Huckabubba.

56 posted on 12/05/2007 12:33:31 PM PST by E. Cartman (Picking Bush-41 to be veep was Ronald Reagan's single biggest mistake...EVER.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The Weekly Standard is excited and positive about Huckabee because like him they are open borders, pro-amnesty, illegal immigration loving, globalists, especially Fred Barnes, chief hack and co-anchor in residence of the Saudi News Channel. The same can be said for the Wall Street Journal and US News and World Report’s beltway blowhard Michael Barone, both of whom would cheer if chattel slavery were reinstated for the benefit of dirt cheap labor for businesses.

Wide open, vulnerable borders and massive, uncontrolled illegal immigration is the “slavery” issue of our times, make no mistake about that. The great difference however between that situation then and ours now is that it isn’t the illegal aliens who are being used, abused, disregarded, ignored, and exploited; it is the honest hard working, law abiding, taxpaying American citizen and legal immigrant that is cheated and exploited and who occupies the role of a second class expendible slave who also bears the massive tax burden and social brunt of illegal immigration for both the cheapskate lawbreaking scumbag employers and the illegal alien parasites his income and freedom are confiscated to bankroll.

The problem with political and financial publications is their belief that immigration exists for the purpose of supplying certain business concerns with an endless supply of cheap labor regardless of its legality when the actual purpose of immigration is to add new citizens to our nation in an orderly, fair, and legal process. None of the lies, hysteria, race pandering, corruption, insanity, and BS surrounding illegal immigration, however well crafted and delivered, can elude the fact that it enables widespread lawbreaking, criminality, and the undermining of the very rule of law our system of government is based on and the only thing that holds this sovereign republic together.


57 posted on 12/06/2007 12:37:21 AM PST by Imperial Warrior
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To: infidel29

well, the Arkansas tax burden overall went down after Huckabees last term as compared to when he took office. And he left the state with a surplus. He had some tax increases...did not Reagan have some too when he was governor of California? Sometimes it sounds like you guys want an idea of conservatism for a candidate that isn’t really doable when they have to govern a largely liberal state.


58 posted on 12/06/2007 12:50:02 AM PST by fabian
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To: fabian
He had some tax increases...

He raised taxes more on Arkansans than Bill Clinton did.

That aside, I don't like Huckabee's stance on several other issues, many that I originally mentioned, immigration being paramount.

I'm not looking for a perfect candidate, he isn't running and never does, I'm looking for who most fulfills the issues that I hold most important. Any of the (R) candidates will get my vote in the general election against any socialist the democrats put up.

I prefer Duncan Hunter most of all, but I'd hold my nose and vote for John McCain if it is necessary to keep America free.

59 posted on 12/06/2007 2:01:45 PM PST by infidel29 (Voting for Paul? Might as well make it Ru Paul, he's got better legs.)
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