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System chief: Let illegal aliens in
News&Observer.Com ^ | December 5, 2007 | Jane Stancill

Posted on 12/05/2007 3:39:56 AM PST by NCDragon

In a passionate defense of allowing illegal immigrants to attend the state's community colleges, system President Martin Lancaster said Tuesday that there was no basis in policy or law to deny anyone admission. Now the question will be considered by lawyers in the state Attorney General's Office. Noelle Talley, a spokeswoman at the office, said lawyers would examine state and federal laws and court decisions to determine the current state of the law.

The issue drew a storm of public outrage over a recent memo from the system's attorney directing all 58 colleges to admit illegal immigrants. The system has about 340 undocumented students out of more than 271,000 degree-seeking students.

Lancaster, whose successor is to be named Thursday, issued a lengthy eight-point statement Tuesday arguing that extending higher education to all residents was crucial for the state's economic future and was "the right thing to do."

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1 posted on 12/05/2007 3:39:57 AM PST by NCDragon
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To: NCDragon
And what happened to VISAs????
2 posted on 12/05/2007 3:43:41 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: NCDragon

maybe he can fund a few with his pension?


3 posted on 12/05/2007 3:44:06 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: NCDragon

Hate to say it but the truth is NC is a haven for illegals. Nothing will happen.


4 posted on 12/05/2007 3:44:14 AM PST by rrrod
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There is a way to deal with the illegals in the states:

Round them up for INS to deport. Not one more dime should be spend on criminal invaders or their children!

Secure the border. Build the fence. Fine businesses through the nose that hire these criminals. Deny so-called “sanctuary cities” federal money. Deport the illegals that won’t “self-deport”.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 3:50:42 AM PST by Sister_T (No Amnesty for Illegal, Lawbreaking, Criminal INVADERS!)
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To: NCDragon

someone needs to go see the man and explain the law of gravity to him!! damn insanity is the only thing constant in NC State


6 posted on 12/05/2007 3:50:52 AM PST by Mojohemi
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To: NCDragon

“It’s like catching a cold. I don’t want a cold, ... but if I get it, I’m going to deal with it. I’m going to take the aspirin and whatever it is I got to do. I don’t want any illegal immigrants in North Carolina, and the only way we can stop that is for Washington to control the borders. ... Washington has not acted. Therefore we are where we are.”

Stupid analogy.
If you catch a cold you do your dam*dest to mitigate its effects. You do not make it welcome, offer it access to your body and encourage relative viruses to seek the same refuge the one has found.


7 posted on 12/05/2007 3:52:29 AM PST by Adder (hialb)
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To: NCDragon

The university elitist is just looking for guaranteed taxpayer funded student loans.

They also are looking for full freight tuition.

How about the fact that illegals in the classroom take away from legal students. Crowded classrooms, limited seats are all problems exacerbated by illegals.


8 posted on 12/05/2007 3:54:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NCDragon

all it is is an excuse to extort tax monies for his college


9 posted on 12/05/2007 3:58:38 AM PST by mo
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To: NCDragon
there was no basis in policy or law to deny anyone admission

I could not make it past that. This guy is an educator?

10 posted on 12/05/2007 4:01:42 AM PST by doodad
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To: tiger-one

The taxpayers in N.C. should not be in the business of financing the upward mobility of illegal aliens.


11 posted on 12/05/2007 4:04:54 AM PST by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!!!!)
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To: longtermmemmory
The university elitist is just looking for guaranteed taxpayer funded student loans.

Bingo. This guy runs a business and it's his job to put butts in classroom seats. Any butt will do.

12 posted on 12/05/2007 4:10:46 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: NCDragon

Lancaster, Did the state send out a memo saying this man was dictator and the legislator and governor needs to go home. Don’t need no stinking judges either we have Comrade Lancaster.


13 posted on 12/05/2007 4:12:05 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: NCDragon

Interesting that U.S. military personnel and their dependents are held to a strict standard while illegal aliens are given a pass. Just an observation.

http://online.northcarolina.edu/military/document.php?id=75

“If you or your dependents are enrolled in a UNC or community college program and you separate from the military or retire while you are stationed in NC, you and your dependents remain eligible for the in-state tuition rate as long as you take the steps necessary to make NC your legal residence within a year.”


14 posted on 12/05/2007 4:17:27 AM PST by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!!!!)
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To: NCDragon
As a True Background, al la "Smoking Gun," the real governor of North Carolina is still the venerable Jim Hunt (D - Wilson), who runs his own Temple to the Education Establishment at UNC. It is here that John Edwards was awarded an "interim" six-figure job for three or four lectures on "Poverty" and his attempts to divide America and start a class war.

Even the Governor was caught off guard when the John William Pope Civitas Institute issued a News Release, nine days ago, citing the economic impact to state government of the policy handed down by the North Carolina Community College System. (The System)

No one one knew about the new policy, you see.

It appears in the now infamous "Sullivan Memorandum" of November 7, The System's "legal Counsel" sent a letter out to the Central Offices of all 58 of North Carolina's community colleges ordering that each must now accept applications from "undocumented individuals."

Rumor has it, Mr. Sullivan, the legal counsel, issued this Memo at the instigation of The Education Establishment (Hunt), if for no other reason than the news caught the Democrat and Republican candidates for Governor by complete surprise, as it did the state's Republican (minority) leaders.

Joint Statement from from NC Senate and House Republican Leaders Phil Berger and Paul Stam

Letter from NC Senate Republican Leader Phil Berger

Since the Republican gubernatorial candidates reacted strongly opposing the policy, and questioned the legality of both the strength of the Memo and, well, just it's plain legality the two leading Democrats hoping to replace Easley next year issued their own opposition. After stammering his way through a hasty reaction, the Governor --- the elected one, not the real one, had his own Huckabee-moment, issuing a more formal support of the new policy, saying he "wouldn't grind his heel in the faces of these people."

Last, but not least, outgoing System President Martin Lancaster, a former congressman defeated for re-election by Walter Jones in 1994, has issued his own supporting statement.

About the only thing Republican leaders laughingly find upbeat about the new policy is it orders "undocumented individuals" to pay Out-Of-State tuition, which they do not find to be any consolation for "taxpayer support for unlawful behavior."

15 posted on 12/05/2007 4:17:42 AM PST by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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To: NCDragon
system President Martin Lancaster said Tuesday that there was no basis in policy or law to deny anyone admission.

Oh yes there is Mr. Lancaster. It's called the Federal Immigration and Nationality Act.

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens Enforcement RICO —Citizen Recourse Tax Crimes Comment

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) "Any person who . . . encourages or induces an illegal alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each illegal alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

· assists an illegal alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or · encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or · knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions. ·

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an illegal alien for a fee, knowing the illegal alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an illegal alien knowing that the illegal alien is unauthorized to work.

It is unlawful to hire any individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days' advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. "Day laborers" or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the illegal alien labor.

The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer's work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual's accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

It is illegal for nonprofit or religious organizations to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, regardless of claims that their convictions require them to assist illegal aliens. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any illegal alien who is in the United States in violation of law. Harboring means any conduct that tends to substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien's illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien's entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that "encouraging" includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years' imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years' imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the illegal alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years' imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer's consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In addition to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

Comment:

A comment and a published quote by Robert Gaffney, Attorney and County Executive of Suffolk County, LI, NY:

The statutory foundation of United States immigration law has always been the jurisdiction of the federal government, Congress and the federal courts. The preeminent laws concerning the employment of illegal aliens are found in the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. §~ 1101-1503), as amended by the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 CIRCA).

The law states it is a crime to assist an illegal alien who lacks employment authorization by referring him to an employer, or by acting as his or her employer, or as an agent for an employer. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(1)(A) (Lexis 1997). Furthermore, it is unlawful to hire an individual for employment without complying with the employment eligibility requirements for every person hired. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(l)(B) (Lexis 1997). Moreover, conduct tending substantially to facilitate illegal aliens remaining in the United States illegally, where there is knowledge or a reckless disregard of an illegal alien s unlawful status, is a crime, with escalating penalties, encompassed within the provisions of 1324. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324(a)(l)(A)(iii) (Lexis 1997); United States v. Kim. 193 F-3d 567 (2d Cir. 1999), are considered employees for purposes of immigration law.
16 posted on 12/05/2007 4:19:38 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: rrrod

My son just moved there and I’m worried about their crime rate. I don’t understand why they need illegals in NC.


17 posted on 12/05/2007 4:27:00 AM PST by MHT
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To: NCDragon
“arguing that extending higher education to all residents was crucial for the state’s economic future and was “the right thing to do.”

And will lead to their legitimacy.

Sounds like the Huckster!

18 posted on 12/05/2007 4:27:43 AM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: NCDragon

No visa required for illegal Mexicans. Maybe they will get to have special prayer rooms, toilets and classes teaching Mexican Christian culture./s


19 posted on 12/05/2007 4:32:14 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Our Community College of the Our Lady of Guadalupe
20 posted on 12/05/2007 4:35:41 AM PST by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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