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Concerns Raised on Border Fence: Lawmaker Seeks To Delay Handover Of the Boeing System
Wall Street Journal ^ | 6 December 2007 | AUGUST COLE

Posted on 12/05/2007 4:56:53 PM PST by shrinkermd

In a letter sent late yesterday to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D., Miss.) cited continuing concerns by the committee that problems with the virtual-fence system known as Project 28 aren't fixed. The committee also is concerned that the effort doesn't give agents the technological advantages Boeing has promised.

Further delay of a project already almost six months behind could set back the credibility of both the effort and of Boeing. It also signals a determination by lawmakers to keep a sharp eye on how Homeland Security buys from the defense industry. Boeing's project is part of a larger effort estimated to cost taxpayers at least $8 billion through 2013, although a government watchdog has warned the costs could triple.

The effort is designed to make agents more effective at stopping smugglers and illegal immigrants by substituting technology for personnel. Known as "SBInet," it may eventually monitor 6,000 miles of the U.S. borders with Mexico and Canada. The government has withheld final payment on the initial $20 million contract while Boeing fixes glitches. Representatives for both Boeing and Homeland Security said they hadn't seen Mr. Thompson's letter.

Boeing has been waiting to turn over the first 28-mile section of the fence since the end of November. If the project is accepted, the government will operate the system alongside Boeing during a 45-day test period that may result in a formal handoff early next year.

...To track a smuggler, an agent in a vehicle can remotely operate a camera and radar system mounted atop a 98-foot tower. Officials have said the system will be capable of locating a person five miles away or a moving car at three times that distance. The network will be overseen by command centers that have the ability to tap into every tower.

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TOPICS: US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; fence; illegals; immigrantlist; virtual
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1 posted on 12/05/2007 4:56:58 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

I guess that whole ‘building a wall’ concept is far too complicated to work in reality...


2 posted on 12/05/2007 4:59:18 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

“I guess that whole ‘building a wall’ concept is far too complicated to work in reality...”

Building a real fence is too cheap. Boeing saw an opportunity in the push for a fence and offered an expensive facsimile from which it could profit with building costs and decades of maintenance contracts. It presumably pushed politicians to support this boondoggle and voila, we have the ironically named “virtual fence”.


3 posted on 12/05/2007 5:04:47 PM PST by Shermy ("A rising tide lifts all boats" ...but lowers those on the other side of the ocean.)
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To: kinoxi
The ONLY realities are that they don't care about the fence.
They don't care that Americans want the fence.
They don't care that the enemy is using the lack of fence now.
4 posted on 12/05/2007 5:08:24 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Shermy
Yeah, a (properly built) masonry wall would last hundreds of years and require very little in the form of upkeep. Why use what’s been proven to work over thousands of years when flashy graphics can net millions (billions?) off the government teat?
5 posted on 12/05/2007 5:11:38 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: shrinkermd

Between the time and money that the government is wasting on these stupid virtual fence schemes, the Army Corps of Engineers and the Navy Seabees could have already built a real wall from California to Louisiana, and at far less cost.


6 posted on 12/05/2007 5:12:44 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: shrinkermd

Hmmmmm ..?? The “fence” is working great in San Diego - but somehow the dems are deaf/dumb and blind about it.


7 posted on 12/05/2007 5:13:44 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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To: Diogenesis
I think that some care about it. I think that the rest should heed your tagline.
8 posted on 12/05/2007 5:15:29 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
I guess that whole ‘building a wall’ concept is far too complicated to work in reality...

Perhaps, but the big attraction is that Bush open borders types can, in just a few minutes, flip a few switches and turn a virtual fence off.

9 posted on 12/05/2007 5:18:04 PM PST by RJL
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To: RJL

That is very true and very scary.


10 posted on 12/05/2007 5:21:23 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Diogenesis

Totally agreed. The fence, protecting America from other nations, terrorist and ideologies is not a priority. Our government cares more about it’s own perspective and goals than what a proper government should obviously do or We the People want.


11 posted on 12/05/2007 5:27:04 PM PST by veracious
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A virtual fence....what to keep out virtual aliens?

This virtual fence nonsense was just a way for the Anti-American/Pro Illegal Alien lobby to fight a “real wall”. A real fence will keep real illegals out


12 posted on 12/05/2007 5:29:00 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Kevin Smith for Heisman)
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To: shrinkermd

“Virtual fences” are only meant to fool virtual idiots.

Note that there is a very tall iron fence around the Casa Blanca.


13 posted on 12/05/2007 5:35:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: shrinkermd

Put Hadrian on the job.


14 posted on 12/05/2007 5:41:18 PM PST by Puddleglum
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To: Shermy
Apparently when this “virtual fence” reacts to an intruder, “non-virtual” personnel have to respond. It seems like smugglers could hire any number of human decoys to probe and activate this system simultaneously and overwhelm the responders.
15 posted on 12/05/2007 6:07:39 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I don’t understand why taxpayers should have to pay for this fence. Walmart, Sears, Hewlet Packard, IBM, Oracle, Ford, GMC, McDonalds, KFC, and a host of other companies are actively leaching off the Mexican economy while profiting in the Billions. It can literally be said that they are training future illegal aliens in Mexico for jobs in the United States. If they want open trade let them pay for the fence.


16 posted on 12/05/2007 7:32:43 PM PST by californio (Coast Guard Vet/ 211 Dick with a banjo on my knee)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

17 posted on 12/06/2007 6:40:32 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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ping


18 posted on 12/06/2007 8:51:39 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: shrinkermd

The BP already operates a large array of cameras and sensors along various sections of the border. They STILL have problems getting agents to the locations quickly enough to apprehend illegals. They also have problems with aliens attacking the more remote camera towers. By the time they can get an agent there, the damage has been done. The only way a virtual fence can work is if there are plenty of agents on hand and a way to get them to a given location fast. Otherwise, all you’re doing is giving the BP the ability to count how many crossers they’re missing.


19 posted on 12/06/2007 9:21:19 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: shrinkermd
problems with the virtual-fence system known as Project 28 aren't fixed.

Yeah, I'm not surprised. Those "virtual fences" don't work. They're NOT going to keep out illegals or terrorists!

I think we should start giving Congress "virtual pay checks." Do you think that would get their attention? ;o)

20 posted on 12/06/2007 9:36:01 AM PST by NRA2BFree
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