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Omaha Mall a Gun-Free Zone
John Lott

Posted on 12/06/2007 9:29:41 AM PST by szweig

Just heard from John Lott, on the Dennis Prager radio show, that the Omaha shooting took place at a gun-free mall. Signs forbidding guns are posted at all the mall entrances. Lott points out that this fact is NOT being reported in the press. The same thing occurred in the Salt Lake City shooting a while back. Curious...SSZ


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunfree; gunfreezone; johnlott
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Thanks.


61 posted on 12/06/2007 10:45:01 AM PST by stevio ((NRA))
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To: nina0113; Joe Brower
Joe is the keeper of the banglist, but most threads just get tagged keyword "banglist" by other users and a ping doesn't normally go out. It would be a VERY high volume list if they all got pings.

Joe I think just sends out pings on very important articles and things that many interested may have missed due to time of posting.

62 posted on 12/06/2007 10:56:51 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: szweig

Now the gun-controller’s will try to steal the guns from everyone who DIDN’T do this shooting!


63 posted on 12/06/2007 10:57:38 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: PapaBear3625

That is a fallacy. OSHA covers employee workplace safety and not customer policies. It is the businesses themselves who say yea or nay to customer gun carrying.


64 posted on 12/06/2007 10:59:32 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Heartofsong83
Is this due to legislation or company policy though? I don’t know of a single mall anywhere that allows guns to be carried inside it, even where there are no laws forbidding such.

None of the malls around here forbid concealed carry, and they do have the legal authority to do so. I think one did right when concealed carry became law, but took the signs down later after they received a lot of complaints and a considerable number of people took their business elsewhere.

65 posted on 12/06/2007 11:01:10 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Domandred; nina0113
You have it, Domandred. Thanks for the assist!
66 posted on 12/06/2007 11:05:11 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: ConservaTexan

He heard someone say that it was a gun free zone, so he killed himself.


67 posted on 12/06/2007 11:09:47 AM PST by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“In Texas, a business has to post signs outside its premises stating that guns are banned. If there aren’t any signs, it can be assumed that one has the right to carry a concealed weapon inside.”

I remember when the Texas concealed carry law first went into effect, and busnisses posting new ‘No Guns’ signs were not uncommon. Whether or not to ban was entirely up to the business. I refused to do business with any shop that had one, and I made a point of asking for the Manager to tell them why.

I let them know that they had lost my business because of their policy. Those individuals now carrying had undergone an extensive background check, had passed a safety course, and statistically tended to be among the most law-abiding in society.

I must not have been the only one, because many of the signs came down after a month or two.


68 posted on 12/06/2007 11:14:21 AM PST by Rockhound
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To: szweig

If you were going to go shoot a bunch of innocent people, would you choose a place posted as “gun free”, or one where the victims are more likely to be armed?


69 posted on 12/06/2007 11:24:05 AM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: szweig

bump


70 posted on 12/06/2007 11:35:17 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Billthedrill

“The mall I patronize has no such nonsense posted and I’d be willing to bet I wasn’t the only shopper with a little friend behind his belt last evening. It isn’t paranoia - this sort of thing draws copycats.”

Neither does my mall...I’m glad I live in Texas.

Shopping in Texas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmTvAZvJ5Mc


71 posted on 12/06/2007 11:42:27 AM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: szweig

i’m going to start carrying again when i go shopping. too many copy-cats out there. god help anyone who tries to shoot up my christmas shopping!


72 posted on 12/06/2007 11:45:33 AM PST by thefactor
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To: Heartofsong83

No malls in Austin, Texas prohibit concealed carry. One did for awhile, way back in the beginning of concealed carry, but wised up and took down the signs.


73 posted on 12/06/2007 11:48:35 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
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To: Heartofsong83
Even if they don’t allow the general public to be armed (per company policy - not legislation), guards need to be.

To obey a sign that disarms you and provides no armed security for you is insanity.

74 posted on 12/06/2007 11:56:37 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Domandred; ctdonath2; Joe Brower

thanks


75 posted on 12/06/2007 12:22:52 PM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: 2harddrive
Well, duh. It's a 'gun free' zone, after all.

/sarc
76 posted on 12/06/2007 12:23:27 PM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Dear Santa, I can explain.)
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To: headsonpikes

Not yesterday...


77 posted on 12/06/2007 12:24:44 PM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: szweig

Its not surprising...

I went and checked the laws in Nebraska, and they pretty much say anyone can post any kind of signage, there is no standard the state requires, to prohibit and make even the licensed carrying of firearms for lawful purposes illegal and prosecutable...

So much for Utopia...

I imagine this could be a real tinderbox of a subject next time the Nebraska legislature gets together...


78 posted on 12/06/2007 12:25:03 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: szweig

I cannot recall any mass shooting NOT in a ‘gun free zone’. Survivors should sue the hell out of any politician who was involved in the decision to make them targets without the ability to defend themselves.


79 posted on 12/06/2007 5:12:50 PM PST by Jim Verdolini
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To: levotb
Actually,they probably have either company provided two-way radios or company provided cellphones and they are told to dial 9-1-1 at the sight of a gun.

Really.

I work in the industry and most are actually owned by liberals who hate guns and the liability.If the guards were armed,the selection process would have to be more stringent;no longer could the security company issue a uniform and a radio,along with 8 HOURS training, to basically any warm body that tests free of illegal drugs.

80 posted on 12/06/2007 6:55:25 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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