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Israel Takes On NIE ( Will present to JSC Mullen why they believe Iran working on Nukes)
Strata Sphere ^ | Friday, December 7th, 2007 at 11:22 am. | AJStrata

Posted on 12/07/2007 12:28:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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41 posted on 12/07/2007 10:33:44 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: BIGLOOK
"Likely there'll be a new classification issued from Meade. TOP SECRET NOFORN/NOMEDIA/NODEMOCRATS!"

Each day my comments about not allowing Democrats to have any clearance classifications at any level look better.

42 posted on 12/08/2007 6:18:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave; jveritas; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Having spend an hour reading through this thread and many of the links provided it occurs to me that, at some point, this country is going to have to prosecute these treasonous bastards for TREASON!


43 posted on 12/08/2007 6:30:15 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Bigun; Interesting Times; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Ernest_at_the_Beach; jveritas; Enchante; Richard Poe; ..

“Having spend an hour reading through this thread and many of the links provided it occurs to me that, at some point, this country is going to have to prosecute these treasonous bastards for TREASON!”

Many of us agree, but it will never happen with the MSM that still exists. When we as a nation failed to try Kerry, Fonda, Kennedy and other traitors during the Nam years, the MSM set up a powerful hate America base. That base is the core of today’s Democrat party, PRAVDABCNNBCBS and the left wing fishwraps. For 4 decades, these hateriots have made patriotism a bad thing and hatred of America a good thing.

I have noted for about two years, if Iraq survives the bs the left has printed, aired and lied about Iraq. Iraq will become a very rich and powerful country. If that happens, we might see Iraq haters around the world, captured and brought to Iraq for trial for War Crimes against innocent Iraqis.

Now we have this NIE bs. There is no way Israel will stand by and let the Iranians develop nuclear weapons. Some of these newest traitors might be getting personal house calls from members of Mossad. They have stepped out of the boundaries of our country with their hatred, and Iraq and Isarael will respond.


44 posted on 12/08/2007 6:44:20 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: MplsSteve

NIE is a joke made up of Clintonista’s.


45 posted on 12/08/2007 6:55:22 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Iraqis are now speaking out against the Iranian War Criminals in Iraq.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936527/posts

Iraqi Tribal Leadership: Shut Down Iranian Embassy In Iraq
MEMRI ^ | Dec 7 2007

Posted on 12/07/2007 9:00:24 PM PST by camerakid400

Over 200 sheikhs of Iraqi tribes issued, on December 6, a communiqué condemning “the terrorist presence of the Iranian regime and of its collaborators in Iraq” and calling for Iran’s embassy and consulates in Iraq to be shut down.

Conversely, the leaders expressed support for the presence of the Iranian opposition organization Mojahideen-e-Khalq in Iraq, “as punishment for the Iranian regime that is exporting terrorism and radicalism to Iraq.”

The leaders also expressed support for a petition signed by over 300,000 Shi’ites in southern Iraq condemning Iranian intervention in Iraq and accusing the Iranian government of “fanning the flames of inter-ethnic violence that has caused the death of tens of thousands of Iraqis... and the uprooting of four million people.”

Source: Al-Sharq Al-Awsat


46 posted on 12/08/2007 7:07:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave
There is no way Israel will stand by and let the Iranians develop nuclear weapons. Some of these newest traitors might be getting personal house calls from members of Mossad. They have stepped out of the boundaries of our country with their hatred, and Iraq and Israel will respond.

I pray that whatever actions they choose to take will be effective and that WE citizens of this great nation will begin to realize that our government is being undermined from WITHIN and has been since at least the 1930's.

47 posted on 12/08/2007 7:11:48 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Bigun
Same prayer, here my friend with one modification:

I pray that whatever actions they choose to take will be effective and that WE citizens of this great nation will begin to realize that our government is being undermined from WITHIN and has been since at least the time of the Russian Revolution when the NY Slimes fell in love with the serial killer communists.

48 posted on 12/08/2007 7:14:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave

Modification accepted with appreciation! (Actually you could have said the 1850’s and I wouldn’t have a problem with it.)


49 posted on 12/08/2007 7:18:25 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Every right headed American realizes that Iran is a dangerous and nuclear bomb seeking nation that hates all Christian and Jewish based nations and will use that bomb they are making if and when the democrat party lets them make it.

In his essay “The Contest In America,” 19th-century libertarian philosopher and economist John Stuart Mill wrote, “[W]ar... is not the greatest evil which a nation can suffer. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse.”


50 posted on 12/08/2007 7:22:48 AM PST by kindred (Christ our Savior born on Christmas day, to save us all from Satan's power when we..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In his essay “The Contest In America,” 19th-century libertarian philosopher and economist John Stuart Mill wrote, “[W]ar... is not the greatest evil which a nation can suffer. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse.”


51 posted on 12/08/2007 7:24:05 AM PST by kindred (Christ our Savior born on Christmas day, to save us all from Satan's power when we..)
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To: kindred
Mill was entirely correct!

Here is the entire quote:

WAR is an ugly thing!

But not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does his own personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill

52 posted on 12/08/2007 7:29:10 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: jveritas; Ernest_at_the_Beach; txflake

Agree. Fortunately, the POTUS is not going to buy into this crap as he basically has made public. The demos and L/MSM will continue to spin the hell out of it, until a few strong enough counter statements are made that put it to rest.


53 posted on 12/08/2007 9:45:21 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

WOW...looks like crap is gettin’ ready to fly.


54 posted on 12/08/2007 9:54:08 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Marine_Uncle
This NIE report reminds a lot of the Iraq Study Group report (Baker report), a lot of media buzz and delusional analysis by the media pundits about its impact on President Bush policy but in reality it will end up in the garbage basket of the oval office as the ISG report did. President Bush will do what is right against the Iranian terrorist regime nuclear program as he has been doing what is right to lead us into Victory in Iraq.
55 posted on 12/08/2007 9:54:27 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas
Our President also KNEW what kinda reaction would be forth coming...I'm sure he's been laughing a lot over this whole thing...I hope Cheney is gettin' a good laugh also.

The world has come out against it...which has made it the greatest hit...instead of Our President being the big bad wolf...HA...it's the lefty made up NIE report's authors and the loony libs. They are being made to look like the fools they are. NO ONE IS BUYING IT...

56 posted on 12/08/2007 10:00:43 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: BIGLOOK; Grampa Dave
The federal agency responsible for national intelligence estimates yesterday defended its report on Iran against charges that it was crafted primarily by former State Department officials who infused their personal politics into the report to undercut the Bush administration.
57 posted on 12/08/2007 10:28:27 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: shield

Exactly, even some liberals who worked in the Clinton administration came out against this NIE report.


58 posted on 12/08/2007 10:30:36 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: george76; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet; Richard Poe; Interesting Times

Thanks for this link.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071208/NATION/112080051/1001

What an absolute pile of dangerous Bovine Scat this NIE report is.

It is nothing but another hit piece against our president, our military, America, Israel, and the newly free people of Iraq.

Israel should consider those, who are responsible for this report to be enemies of Israel, wanting Israel destroyed by Iran or one of its insane prozies.


59 posted on 12/08/2007 11:27:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave; george76; Ernest_at_the_Beach; jveritas; ASA Vet; Richard Poe; Interesting Times
This is to be taken in Meta Language. We are dealing with the system of intelligence reporting.

The current NIE is not a reliable estimate of Iranian status or intent. I can't remember when an NIE made the news over the years since the speech given by Colin Powell before the UN. This one made headlines in the MSM a week after it was issued and as such leaves little doubt of its politically subversive nature towards the Bush administration and our efforts in the Mid East region. Since the hard skinny can never be made available to any but a few, a politically charged analysis squeaks by into the public eye, an assumption made by the initiators, who work at State, of the report is taken as fact.

For those of us that have served, recall the prohibitions against writing assumptions or prejudices into reports.....and the consequences for such actions. We would stand before the Mast.

In this age of politically charged animosity towards efforts to proscribe hostile intent and prevent its capabilities for threat, the authors of this report have failed in their professional duties, chosen to counter policy and have been subverted by a political ideology. Whether for their actions or ineptitude, they should be dismissed.
60 posted on 12/08/2007 2:28:22 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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