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Island Shrinking by Global Warming… But for Over 100 Years?
Men's News Daily ^ | 12/8/2007 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 12/08/2007 10:48:14 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Anybody remember the screaming agony over a bunch of uninhabited islands that had “completely disappeared due to Global Warming?”

As I recall, the islands were somewhere in Asia. Turns out they disappeared 10 years ago due to massive erosion.

Kinda like this island.

But to hear the Warmers talk about it, it was a hint of things to come due to rising sea levels.


21 posted on 12/08/2007 1:48:24 PM PST by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery! She will redefine "How bad can it get?")
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To: upchuck

Of course, these enviro-fads come and go. There was a big cry over global cooling when the winter of 1977 was the most brutal winter on record. A few mild winters later, the big fetish was erosion. People setting foot in the national forests was destroying them. The Forest Service was preaching that you’re destroying the environment by having the gall to step off a trail. In the mid-90s, the erosion fad gave way to delicate crust soils that hadn’t been touched in a kazillion years and big bad fat greedy Americans had the unmitigated gall to trample on it and render 50 species a day extinct. Then global warming took hold and has been going strong for over 10 years.

I’m sure I’ve missed a bunch in between, but that’s what I remember over the years.


22 posted on 12/08/2007 2:01:48 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: AliVeritas

Latest Weather Channel Headline.
GORE’S GLOBAL FLATULENCE NOW A VICTIM OF PREPARATION “H”!


23 posted on 12/08/2007 2:18:23 PM PST by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Global warming is a fact, has been since the little ice age. Man made global warming is the fiction.


24 posted on 12/08/2007 2:48:28 PM PST by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
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To: depressed in 06

You bet. We came out of the last ice age 20,000 years ago, which is nothing on the scale of geologic time. Alaska and Greenland have fossils of tropical plants and animals, so things are going to get a lot hotter before they start cooling toward another ice age. We won’t be here to see it.


25 posted on 12/08/2007 3:28:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
For those FReepers who actually want to learn something as opposed to making snarky remarks. I really doubt "the average American" would care to live there.

I have worked for NANA Corp, a Native outfit, and many of the folks are from Kivalina. They recognize the futility of living on a barriar island and taking the steps needed to move.
Some just figure if Uncle Sugar has $100 Billion to spend pi$$ away in Iraq, what not give up a little for some Eskimos? At least they are citizens.....

As for the village -

Kivalina Alaska 67.43N - 164.32W

Population: 383

Location: Kivalina is at the tip of an 8-mile barrier reef located between the Chukchi Sea and Kivalina River. It lies 80 air miles northwest of Kotzebue.

History: Kivalina has long been a stopping-off place for seasonal travelers between arctic coastal areas and Kotzebue Sound communities. It is the only village in the region where people hunt the bowhead whale. At one time, the village was located at the north end of the Kivalina Lagoon. It was reported as "Kivualinagmut" in 1847 by Lt. Zagoskin of the Russian Navy. Lt. G.M. Stoney of the U.S. Navy reported the village as "Kuveleek" in 1885. A post office was established in 1940. An airstrip was built in 1960. Kivalina incorporated as a City in 1969. During the 1970s, new houses, a new school and an electric system were constructed in the village. Prior to 1976, high school students from Noatak would attend school in Kivalina, and board with local families. Due to severe erosion, the City intends to relocate -- a new site has been selected 7.5 miles away. Funds have been provided by various federal and state agencies since the early 1990s to assess relocation alternatives and to design and engineer the new site."

Culture: Kivalina is a traditional Inupiat Eskimo village. Subsistence activities, including whaling, provide most food sources. The sale or importation of alcohol is banned in the village.

Economy: Kivalina's economy depends on subsistence practices. Seal, walrus, whale, salmon, whitefish and caribou are utilized. The school, City, Maniilaq Association, village council, airlines and local stores provide year-round jobs. The Red Dog Mine also offers employment. Five residents hold commercial fishing permits. The Native craft industry has recently expanded - carvings and jewelry are produced from ivory and caribou hooves. The community is interested in developing an Arts and Crafts Center that could be readily moved to the new city site.

Transportation: The major means of transportation into the community are plane and barge. The community needs a road to the proposed new City site, 7.5 miles away. A State-owned 3,000' airstrip serves daily flights from Kotzebue. Crowley Marine Services barges goods from Kotzebue during July and August. Small boats, ATVs and snowmachines are used for local travel. Two main hunting trails follow the Kivalina and Wulik Rivers.

Climate: Kivalina lies in the transitional climate zone which is characterized by long, cold winters and cool summers. The average low temperature during January is -15; the average high during July is 57. Temperature extremes have been measured from -54 to 85. Snowfall averages 57 inches, with 8.6 inches of precipitation per year. The Chukchi Sea is ice-free and open to boat traffic from mid-June to the first of November.

Facilities: Residents haul water and honeybuckets. The Wulik River provides water through a 3-mile surface transmission line, which is treated and stored in a 600,000-gallon steel tank. The tank is filled each summer for the community's winter water supply. Wells have proven unsuccessful. Water is hauled from this point at the new washeteria. One-third of homes have tanks to provide running water for the kitchen. Four honeybucket disposal bunkers are located in the City. Funds have been requested to develop a Master Plan for a piped water and sewer system at the relocation site. A new landfill and honeybucket dump site were recently completed.

26 posted on 12/08/2007 4:29:02 PM PST by ASOC
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Wait until the asshats on Nantucket find out that their multi-million dollar homes are sitting on a glacial morain.


27 posted on 12/08/2007 4:49:47 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: ASOC

I could not care LESS than I now do about this island and the grasping hands there who want MY tax dollars to build them a new paradise.

Let’ em sink!

Like the article says... here’s an idea MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND.

But don’t expect a penny from me to do it.


28 posted on 12/08/2007 10:45:42 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus; ASOC

I’m with you. If your locale has problems, then pack it up and head out! Our military people get a pittance to live like gypsies and they have to pay a lot of the cost themselves when they move, but these island people are supposed to be paid half a million dollars each to move? Screw that.

Other people living off the dole is not justification to be a parasite. Life’s panhandlers all have the same justification: Uncle Sam has plenty of money, so I want what the other welfare hoes are getting. Pay up, the world owes me a living!!


29 posted on 12/09/2007 6:24:29 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good grief! I wouldn’t put one rock on top of another on that Godforsaken sandbar and expect it to be there in a week.


30 posted on 12/09/2007 6:31:15 AM PST by poindexter
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

When does an spit become an island?


31 posted on 12/09/2007 6:36:51 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: ßuddaßudd

I guess when some idiot decides to build a house on it. Then they complain when the front yard moves a hundred yards down the beach.


32 posted on 12/09/2007 6:45:21 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

They will move and have started.

BTW - since New Orleans is already below sea level - will be moved as well?


33 posted on 12/09/2007 1:50:51 PM PST by ASOC
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To: ASOC

New Orleans can move all it wants.... but WITHOUT Federal money!


34 posted on 12/09/2007 10:29:53 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law

~~ AGW™ ping~~


35 posted on 12/31/2007 9:22:07 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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