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To: nmh

““Since you ignore facts, once again I will state that plural marriage is illegal as well as banned by the Church. What is your problem with the facts?””

Please tell me which of your prophets declared that polygamy was good.

Please tell me which of your prophets declared later, to gain statehood, that all of a sudden polygamy was bad.

Please tell me which of your prophets declared that non-whites couldn’t attain the “priesthood.”

Please tell me which of your prophets in the 1960’s declared that non-whites could attain the “priesthood.”

Please then explain to me which ones were false prophets, since the biblical definition of a prophet is that he never prophesies falsely.

“By their fruits ye shall know them.”

Please tell me why there are some self-declared Mormons even now who claim polygamy is good. They claim they are just following the prophetical declarations of Joseph Smith.


53 posted on 12/08/2007 2:09:38 PM PST by rightazrain ("Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. " -- Ernest Hemingway)
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To: rightazrain
I never understood how plural marriage was supposed to work. If practiced widely there wouldn't be enough females to go around.

Kinda like in China where they have a girl shortage for an entirely different reason.

One's enough for me. Who needs more than one mother-in-law anyway?

56 posted on 12/08/2007 2:20:17 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: rightazrain; Elsie
Please tell me why there are some self-declared Mormons even now who claim polygamy is good. They claim they are just following the prophetical declarations of Joseph Smith.

This is the most misunderstood LDS doctrine by both Mormons & non-Mormons alike.

So I'm glad you said self-declared Mormons even now who claim polygamy is good.

Frankly speaking, most Mormons have to believe that polygamy is still good. For them to believe in a celestial kingdom where polygamy is supposedly still practiced by those who embraced it on earth, can you imagine a Mormon thinking...?

"Yup, when I die I'm going to go right up to Joseph & Brigham & tell them & their wives right to their faces that polygamy was immoral, unlawful, exploitive, etc.!!!"

(Yeah, right)

That's why the LDS Doctrine & Covenants never condemns polygamy, never retracts it, never recants it, never implies God even changed his mind about its worthiness. The 1890 change is not worded as a "new revelation"; rather it's simply a "declaration" that it's halted (on colony earth only).

64 posted on 12/08/2007 2:51:28 PM PST by Colofornian (Tell me why again people want to vote for someone whose next career stop is a god's throne?)
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To: rightazrain

“Please tell me which of your prophets declared that polygamy was good. Please tell me which of your prophets declared later, to gain statehood, that all of a sudden polygamy was bad.”

Polygamy was something that was only permitted at certain times as determined by God’s wisdom. Sometimes he commands it, sometimes he forbids it. The conduct of the church has been consistent with that.

“Please tell me which of your prophets declared that non-whites couldn’t attain the “priesthood.” Please tell me which of your prophets in the 1960’s declared that non-whites could attain the “priesthood.””

Brigham Young said the day would come when they would get the priesthood too, and so in the late 70’s (not the 60’s) that day came. Again, not a change in doctrine, but the fulfillment of a promise.

“Please tell me why there are some self-declared Mormons even now who claim polygamy is good. They claim they are just following the prophetical declarations of Joseph Smith.”

Any member known to be practicing polygamy is excommunicated, even if the country where they live allow it by law. People in these splinter groups who practice polygamy are no more Mormons than Lutherans are Catholics.

Also, seeing as there are Catholics who think birth control and divorce are OK, and other ministers in orthodox faiths rejecting the divinity of Christ, why is the opinion of a ‘self-declared Mormon’ worth anything?


93 posted on 12/08/2007 8:45:29 PM PST by Grig
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