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Univision and The Republican Debate In Spanish (Don't Press One For English)
December 8, 2007 | ED

Posted on 12/08/2007 2:19:34 PM PST by Earthdweller

December 9, 2007 - Miami, Florida

Univision, the nation’s largest Spanish-speaking television network, will be sponsoring a Republican debate hosted by the University of Miami on December 9, 2007. The candidates in attendance will be Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Ron Paul, John McCain, Duncan Hunter, and Mike Huckabee.

But for millions of people who might want to view the debate, there could be a slight problem, to check the Univison website for air times you need to speak Spanish.

The explaination for a Spanish only site at first glance might be that there is a problem with inserting translation code into the website, but the webmaster clearly has the ability to add the translation software. While an English translation button is absent from Univison’s TV programming site, their English version Corporate site has a predominate Spanish translation button at the very top of the home page.

In addition, on the same Spanish only Univison TV programming site, there is a link to a bilingual site similar to My Space that appears to be a major concession to those Spanish speakers who want to hook up with American dates.

Now, I'm an English only speaker and with a serious thing like a Presidential debate airing tomorrow, I’m in too much of a hurry to hook up or even to wait for someone to put me on their Spanish “My Space” buddies list. I also need plenty of time to figure out how to activate the closed caption on my TV so I can read what people are saying. I figure it's the least I can do so I won't miss out on one of the most important debates of the 2008 election.

So with all this extra work I'm doing, I’m beginning to get a bit frustrated and I’m checking in my Webster’s English to Spanish dictionary to see if there is a Spanish equivalent to the word ‘ironic’.

It's true, I do try hard to be flexible in our ever increasingly PC world. I only moan for a second or two every time I have to push one for English, but I will have to admit that doing so is such an ever increasingly huge daily nuisance and I’ve have never even so much as gotten a thank you note from that machine voice on the other end of my phone.

Considering how much of my time I spend accommodating Univison's usual viewer-ship, it seems to me that Univison could at least offer me an English translation button so I can view their website.

But then again, accommodation is a two way street..in a perfect world.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; debate; debates; election; gop; gopdebates; hispanicvote; hunter; immigrantlist; immigration; spanish; thompson; univision
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Does anyone know what time this thing airs?

http://www.univision.com/portal.jhtml

1 posted on 12/08/2007 2:19:37 PM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Earthdweller

ill pass


2 posted on 12/08/2007 2:22:23 PM PST by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, people, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: Earthdweller

The Univison link

http://www.univision.com/portal.jhtml


3 posted on 12/08/2007 2:25:24 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

BTT!


4 posted on 12/08/2007 2:26:39 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Earthdweller
¡No problema amigo!

Mañana, el domingo. 9 de diciembre a partir de las 7 hora de este /6 pm Centro

5 posted on 12/08/2007 2:27:16 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

No sava nada!


6 posted on 12/08/2007 2:28:19 PM PST by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Earthdweller

I’m sick to death of this crap.


7 posted on 12/08/2007 2:29:34 PM PST by donna (Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones, But Words Will Never Hurt Me)
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To: donna
"I’m sick to death of this crap."

¡Y mucho, mucho amor para ti!


8 posted on 12/08/2007 2:32:51 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Disciplinemisanthropy

Panderers, all of them.


9 posted on 12/08/2007 2:32:52 PM PST by isrul
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To: billorites

OK so what channel is Univision on Direct TV?


10 posted on 12/08/2007 2:38:36 PM PST by RichRepublican (Good fences make good neighbors.)
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To: Earthdweller
Here's the link to the Debate's page:

http://www.univision.com/content/channel.jhtml?chid=3&schid=10414

On the front page it's called "Foro Republicano". The debate is Sunday the 9th (tomorrow) at 7pm EST. If you want a translation you can go to yahoo or google and they have translation pages where you can enter the above address and it will translate the entire page. Not very well...but well enough.

11 posted on 12/08/2007 2:43:11 PM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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To: isrul

Hunter and Thompson too? Maybe some of the candidates want to show how it would benefit Hispanic U.S. citizens to be against illegal immigration.

For the record, many legal immigrants from Latin America speak both Spanish and English, but prefer Spanish at home. Their children tend to speak mostly English.


12 posted on 12/08/2007 2:44:33 PM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: Reaganesque

The link I provided also appears to have a link to watch the debat live online. So, if you don’t have Univision, you can watch it at the link above.


13 posted on 12/08/2007 2:45:08 PM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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To: JillValentine
Thompson and Hunter are having more than enough problems with English speaking voters. If they expect to win primaries they need to do a lot more work with English speaking Republicans.
14 posted on 12/08/2007 2:49:28 PM PST by isrul
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To: Earthdweller

If this debate is only going to be on the jibberish network and the net it wont much matter what any of them say.

Nobody is going to watch it.


15 posted on 12/08/2007 3:03:33 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Earthdweller

There should be analysis of the debate by FoxNews and other channels in English. I will be watching to see how the candidates stand up to illegal immigrant whining. I hope the candidates bring up issues like abortion and taxes. The cowards at Univision and the rest of leftist media always create the image that Hispanics don’t care about issues that could favor Republicans.


16 posted on 12/08/2007 3:15:27 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: pulaskibush

I don’t particularly like important information digested for me and then spit out with spin. Events rarely come out of the wash the way they originally occurred after the information shapers get to it.


17 posted on 12/08/2007 3:24:46 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
Univision, the nation’s largest Spanish-speaking television network

The language of the American nation is English. For the most part the Mexicans who come here do not want to assimilate. They want all the economic advantages that American can offer them but were denied to them in Mexico. They cling to a failed culture of oppression by refusing to learn English. They have no appreciation of the genius of American culture. What they are incapable of is gratitude to the country that has given them so much to be thankful for.

18 posted on 12/08/2007 3:28:35 PM PST by stripes1776 ("I will not be persuaded that any good can come from Arabia" --Petrarca)
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To: Earthdweller

Dec. 9, 7pm /6 central.


19 posted on 12/08/2007 3:38:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two -- the 16th and 17th Amendments! Sink LOST!)
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To: Earthdweller

Dear God in Heaven let’s hope they don’t try speaking Spanish. That would just put me over the edge!!! lol.


20 posted on 12/08/2007 3:46:34 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: All

OK So, for an American in the USA who just happens to speak English, what tv channel will the debate be broadcast in English?

And or an English stream link? if such a thing exists :^)


21 posted on 12/08/2007 3:51:45 PM PST by msnpatriot
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To: napscoordinator
I guess you didn’t get the point. I’m a moderate on this issue and it ticks me off... I can’t imagine how angry it makes others. Why is everyone going out of their way to purposely make it difficult to get information about this?
22 posted on 12/08/2007 3:53:39 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

“Why is everyone going out of their way to purposely make it difficult to get information about this?”

Good question. I want to know if our candidates tell them the same tough border talk as they tell us.


23 posted on 12/08/2007 4:01:33 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Earthdweller

I was not looking for a point. I posted what point I wanted to make and I believe others will too.


24 posted on 12/08/2007 4:01:42 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator; Travis McGee

Sorry to say the pro-illegal immigration folks are not going to be able explain it well if they disenfranchise the American public in general from seeing this debate. I don’t think an attempt to hide this debate under a hat, intended or not, is helping anyones cause. Do you?


25 posted on 12/08/2007 4:08:49 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

We have a Spanish station on our cable that will air it at 7:00PM Eastern here in Florida. I guess they won’t have it in Spanish and English, so I won’t understand a thing! Was hoping that perhaps it would be carried by C-SPAN in English, so the rest of us could get to hear what all the candidates have to say!


26 posted on 12/08/2007 4:10:41 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: AuntB
"Good question. I want to know if our candidates tell them the same tough border talk as they tell us."

Major discrepancies on any issue is a candidate killer. This is probably going to be the most difficult debate so far for the candidates. It's actually a must see.

27 posted on 12/08/2007 4:11:55 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: seekthetruth

That would be great.


28 posted on 12/08/2007 4:12:43 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: stripes1776

Intentional segregation is being practiced by Univision. Why?


29 posted on 12/08/2007 4:41:06 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: pacpam
Intentional segregation is being practiced by Univision. Why?

They have no intention to integrate into America, while at the same time demanding to reap the benefits of a culture which they had no role in creating . The same thing is happening with Chinese and other "sacred cultures" in the multicultocracy.

30 posted on 12/08/2007 5:16:31 PM PST by stripes1776 ("I will not be persuaded that any good can come from Arabia" --Petrarca)
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To: All
FYI..I checked the closed caption on the station. It’s in Spanish as well with no way to translate. That’s just special isn’t it?
31 posted on 12/09/2007 1:26:35 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

“FYI..I checked the closed caption on the station. It’s in Spanish as well with no way to translate. That’s just special isn’t it?”

So there is no coverage in ENGLISH of the Republican candidate debate?? This is sickening! Does anyone know if there will at least be a english transcript of the debate?


32 posted on 12/09/2007 3:08:54 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

Some of us here who speaka the language, will summarize it here on FR I am sure. You are among friends. Dont feel left out (although it is easy to feel that way). I see your point.


33 posted on 12/09/2007 3:37:05 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: seekthetruth
My hope is that they at least translate the questions to the candidates so we will know what they are responding to in real time. It’s valuable information to check body language along with verbal.

I’m wondering if there will be a live thread on this one.

34 posted on 12/09/2007 3:38:07 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yeah! I trust your translation far more than any MSM translation!


35 posted on 12/09/2007 3:40:13 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
This was my original thought on this debate. It may have been a little out of the mainstream for FR, but, well, we cannot agree on everything all the time. We are still all patriots. I thought Duncan should actually take a negative and turn it into a positive. Seeing as he has a lot of Hispanic support in his district (of US citizens) AGAINST illegal aliens coming in, he could talk to them and thank them for their supports, and also reach out to lots of Americans Citizens of latino descent who are ALSO TICKED OFF ABOUT ALL THE ILLEGALS. I have talked to some of them. They are out there. And they are voters. I thought Tanc took the ostrich position and it will not necessarily benefit him:

"Not impressive. Actually, bad move. Go anywhere and anyplace and if necessary, go smack into the Lions Den and tell them their faces they are wrong on immigration (and let it be translated in Spanish). Put the full weight of the GOP down on illegals in any forum you can. This is psy war at its best. If Duncan gets a rousing chorus of BOO's when he lets into ILLEGAL ALIENS, this is a great clip to use for political contribution purposes. It is like Terry Anderson running that fool Brown Beret Cepeda on his show (a tape) over and over. In a way he is giving him airtime, but the point is, he makes up for it in fortifying our side to stand its ground. If I were Tancredo I would reconsider, and show up, and get the badge of honor of being booe'd and hissed on stage, and let the RINOs there moderate on TV and accordingly dig their own graves with the GOP base on this one. Good for Hunter. Furthermore, I would do this. I would make my introduction in English and slow it down (to what the VOA calls "Special English" speed) and say "Thank you, Univision, for this unique opportunity. However I would like to say this. What is better for you, my Hispanic fellow citizens, is not rely on Spanish language here as I speak, but make the extra effort to learn this English--as I am speaking in it--and we will even slow it down for you if you need it to get started. Before you know it, you will be fluent, and a full participant in our country's affairs, in the land of our country, English. Please make the effort as millions of immigrants from other lands have before you. I will not insult you by thinking you dont have enough brains to learn English by insisting you only rely on Spanish without any progress." 25 posted on 12/05/2007 6:36:14 PM EST by AmericanInTokyo (McCain? Giuliani? Huckabee? Mitt? All UNACCEPTABLE on Illegal Immigration as Sellouts or Newcomers) "

36 posted on 12/09/2007 3:51:28 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: Earthdweller

Is there an online link?


37 posted on 12/09/2007 3:53:35 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: BunnySlippers

It is above (another Freeper posted it). I am on it now. I would imagine it will get full quickly, so if you want “in” you better punch it into your URL soon! Kickoff in just three minutes.


38 posted on 12/09/2007 3:55:59 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I found one:

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1276495


39 posted on 12/09/2007 3:57:07 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: donna
I’m sick to death of this crap.

You and me both.

40 posted on 12/09/2007 3:58:11 PM PST by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: Nea Wood

OK< they are all up now. Giuliani got the biggest applause (of course this is in Florida). Hunter got quite an applause, too. Interesting. It was rather quiet for Huckabee it seemed.


41 posted on 12/09/2007 4:06:06 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Giuliani kicked it off. THe English translation of the question was not clear (volume wise) but he seemed to get the question anyways in Spanish and answered in English. It looks like they fixed the sound volume. Mitt on his answer now.


42 posted on 12/09/2007 4:07:57 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Huck pandering now.


43 posted on 12/09/2007 4:08:53 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: Earthdweller
Sooooooooo........

The only one not showing up for the mexican debate is...


TOM TANCREDO

I guess I know who I'm voting for.
44 posted on 12/09/2007 4:11:42 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Earthdweller

The data has been in for some time;
Total immersion is the quickest way to learn a new language.
All delays in learning the native language impair the individuals learning and earning ability.

This debate is patronizing and pitiful!


45 posted on 12/09/2007 4:12:26 PM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Hunter up!


46 posted on 12/09/2007 4:12:38 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: G Larry

I agree. People need to be weaned off their sole language when they immigrate, and get into English ASAP. It can be done!! ;-)


47 posted on 12/09/2007 4:13:22 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hunter talking about REAGAN as the center of the party of the Republicans, of liberating people with free market economies. Hunter just now got a rousing, sustained applause. The strongest applause so far for any of them. A bit surprising. I thought they would boo him since he is the strongest on illegal immigration on the stage..
48 posted on 12/09/2007 4:14:53 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
My closed caption is in Spanish..

Beam me up!

sw

49 posted on 12/09/2007 4:15:47 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife ("The best thing about this group of candidates is that only one of them can win.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Ron Paul got a strong round just now, too. McCain getting a strong applause on some issue. I think the crowd so far is being polite to most if not all of them. Wait till we get into illegal immigration, though, I think it will heat up.


50 posted on 12/09/2007 4:16:29 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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