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More Cubans finding the courage to speak out
MiamiHerald.Com ^ | 8 Dec 07 | MIAMI HERALD STAFF

Posted on 12/09/2007 12:38:51 AM PST by elhombrelibre

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1 posted on 12/09/2007 12:38:52 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Raul has been secretly sizing up retirement palaces in Italy according to the Cuban blogs.

The end will come unexpectedly and very violently. I only wish all the Hollywood and democrat party vermin who have oppressed the Cuban people for so long, will be on hand to face the wrath of free Cubans.


2 posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:06 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
I do hope it’s not violent, but I would not be surprised. Hollyweird will be greatly disappointed when the Cuban people are freed from the Castro brothers’ fiefdom.
3 posted on 12/09/2007 12:58:51 AM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is the Jane Fonda of the year.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Felipe, a carpenter, asks in front of his co-workers why Fidel Castro can come up with an idea one day and have it become law the next.

Uh, maybe because he's a dictator?

4 posted on 12/09/2007 1:17:47 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: elhombrelibre

There has been going on in Cuba than the MSM has “informed” us, the little people. Bracelets marked CAMBIO (change) are popping up in Cuba, secret bloggers/hackers are using guv comps to spread the word. The exile community..worldwide is getting worked up and college kids are protesting. This isnt very organized but it’s a clear sign.

Here in the US Americans of Cuban parents are getting into the act and this is very good news.

Cubans are very restricted from travel in Cuba...while tourist have food, med care, nice beaches and so on available average Cubans have nada.

Will the revolt be bloody? I hear from some Cubans it will be a little violent. Revenge killings from imprisoned political prisoners and their families will go on for years I think.

Neighborhood “bosses”, commie snitches, school teachers and police will get the special treatment.

The tourist, and I have no sympathy for them, will get robbed blind by Castro’s goons that are closely watching them spend their money. The MSM will blame the average Cuban for this but everyone knows the average Cuban cannot even get into the tourist areas!

If a revolt doenst happen within 6 months...Cuba will be lost for a few more generations. The exiled community knows this and efforts are underway now to hasten the revolt.

There are a lot of Cuban Blog sites that would welcome FReeper support.

CAMBIO


5 posted on 12/09/2007 1:30:37 AM PST by rrrod
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To: elhombrelibre
They need to be careful. In the early 1960s, Mao also let people speak. It turned out it’s his way to separate the ‘bad guys’ from the ‘good guys’.
6 posted on 12/09/2007 1:33:07 AM PST by paudio
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Ahh, but if they all arise at the same time the “bad” guys will be way outnumbered.


7 posted on 12/09/2007 1:35:12 AM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Rev 13:16-17,John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Amen——and it’s about damn time!


8 posted on 12/09/2007 2:01:42 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.....for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: paudio

I think this tactic is used in cities and school districts here in the United States.

Enemies of the mayor-city council and school superintendent-school board are identified and discredited.

No one gets arrested for opposition but codes enforcement is used by cities and infiltration of groups that oppose the status quo do happen.

This helps to confuse the opposition and discredits their position with the public.

In one Democrat controlled city some years ago (York,PA) there was a simultaneous roundup of Republican leaders in the city for unpaid parking tickets.


9 posted on 12/09/2007 2:14:27 AM PST by Nextrush (Uncommitted in 2008 but no John McCain or Ron Paul please)
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To: elhombrelibre
"...I do hope it’s not violent..., "

It won't be.

After Castro, expect millions of US$ to be privately developing Cuba's mountains and warmwater coastlines, and the Boomers to be migrating there in droves. Cuba's vaunted HealthCare will even improve!

10 posted on 12/09/2007 2:23:41 AM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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“I do hope it’s not violent”, why?
If I were to hit you with a stick for half a century and more if you ever got the ability to I’d hope you grab the stick someday and beat me with it real good.
The good Cuban folks will someday hit those who have enslaved them for decades.


11 posted on 12/09/2007 3:03:07 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: 444Flyer

yes but the bad guys are the ones with all the guns.
What Cuba needs is for a military wing to join in for Cambio.


12 posted on 12/09/2007 3:06:33 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: elhombrelibre

Tell that to Jimmy Carter and the dems who love Castro.


13 posted on 12/09/2007 3:09:44 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: elhombrelibre

Interesting.


14 posted on 12/09/2007 3:21:00 AM PST by Joya (For more info on Hucksterbee, go to http://www.arkjournal.com/)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Dude, comeon, drop the “It’s all (Carters/Clintons)fault” bs.
History and politics in Cuba go back a couple months more than that.

Making the type of statement you made is as productive (and analytical) as posting yet another picture of Helen Thomas.

The SOS ain’t working. We need to find a way to invite Cuba into a political and economic sphere that will benefit all involved.


15 posted on 12/09/2007 3:28:55 AM PST by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: rrrod
Will the revolt be bloody? I hear from some Cubans it will be a little violent. Revenge killings from imprisoned political prisoners and their families will go on for years I think.

Hate to put it this way, but it's the truth:

Communism in Russia died with a whimper, not a bang.

And only a few years later, because they didn't "clean up the mess", communist party survivors have reconsolidated and are expanding their once broken power again.

Cuba needs to feed the flame of liberty with the blood of tyrants to do this right. They cannot afford to leave any lingering trace of the old leadership if they truly with to be free. Again, look at Russia...

16 posted on 12/09/2007 3:44:20 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Lisette, a nurse, tells a total stranger how the medical system has
deteriorated since thousands of Cuban doctors were sent to Venezuela.

Hey wait a minute...I thought there was a documentary stating that the health care
down there in Cuba was first tier...I'm confused hearing this

17 posted on 12/09/2007 4:22:41 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()... Cevapi & Slivovitz for everyone....()
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To: elhombrelibre

I wish I could be more hopeful for Cuba. They are a good people, but I see that after a generation or two under communism, there usually springs up attitude of dependency on the government.

In states that develop a strong black market economy, there also is a strong tendecy to breed criminality. I keep telling my lib sister, when you tell people they can’t do or have something you don’t deprive them of it. All you do is make more people criminals. She doesn’t get it.

The only bulwark I see against this is a strong faith. Places where religion stays strong cannot be defeated by communism.


18 posted on 12/09/2007 4:34:50 AM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: djf
Dude, comeon, drop the “It’s all (Carters/Clintons)fault” bs. History and politics in Cuba go back a couple months more than that.

Agreed. To give Carter a little credit -- just a little, don't have a heart attack -- when Carter visited Cuba, he insisted on speaking on national television, live, in Spanish. His Spanish is really terrible. i don't even speak the language, and I could tell. But it meant that there wasn't a translator to muck around with the speech, in which he praised a group of dissidents Castro had recently jailed.

The SOS ain’t working. We need to find a way to invite Cuba into a political and economic sphere that will benefit all involved.

We need to be -- and I'm fairly confident we are --- planning for a way to help glide Cuba to a soft landing. Fidel has succeeded in building a communist personality cult, the way the Kims have in North Korea or Mao did in China. Far more Cubans feel loyalty toward Fidel than toward communist principles.

With Raul as "interim" president (raise your hand if you think Fidel is ever coming back, if indeed he's alive right now), the cracks in the facade are already starting to show. Raul is only a couple of years younger than Fidel, and all the other towering figures of the Revolucion are either elderly or dead. It's not as if Che is next in line. To protect their own power, Fidel and his cronies have not raised a next generation.

The best we can hope for right now is the kind of soft landing that most of Eastern Europe had in 1989-90. A new leader who sees the writing on the wall and allows multi-party elections. Western companies ready to invest.

Cuba has some advantages -- a population that is literate and well-educated, even if that education included a lot of propaganda and indoctrination. Abundant natural resources. A climate that is pretty close to paradise, aside from the occasional hurricane. It is ripe for counter-revolution.

If the new hotels and casinos are built by Marriot instead of the Mob, they could bring jobs and prosperity and freedom without the stench of corruption. Pre-Castro Havana was comparable to Las Vegas when it was run by the mob. If post-Castro Havana could be comparable to Vegas today, that would be a huge victory.

The US government should be prepared for Fidel's death, ready to nudge developments in the right direction. Subtly, because being seen as an American puppet is the last thing a new Cuban government wants. The front line is going to be the exile community in the US, because Cubans are less likely to distrust or resent their own kin.

The future of Cuba is in Miami waiting for the call. They're passionately pro-democratic, and in the last few decades, some of them have made a lot of money that they would love to invest in a Nuevo Cuba.

There are many reasons to doubt the foresight of American intelligence, but all the signs are that smart folks in our government are planning in the ways I've just outlined. I don't know what plans are in place, and I don't want to know, if my knowing would also mean that Fidel's cronies know.

When -- not if -- Cuba reaches the crisis point, we need to be prepared. Until then, we need to hang fire. If the crisis is seen by Cubans as one manufactured by the US, it will not end well for us. Cubans must take the lead, and then we offer assistance.

19 posted on 12/09/2007 4:45:53 AM PST by ReignOfError
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Communism in Russia died with a whimper, not a bang.

And thank God for that. Because if it had ended with a "bang," that bang would be measured in gigatons. We could not -- the world could not -- afford that risk.

And only a few years later, because they didn't "clean up the mess", communist party survivors have reconsolidated and are expanding their once broken power again.

That's way overstated. Russia is certainly a mess, but the current threat is cronyism, not communism. Russia's apparatchiks have moved from the worst form of communism to the worst form of capitalism in a blink. It isn't about ideology. It's about sheer lust for power.

20 posted on 12/09/2007 4:56:08 AM PST by ReignOfError
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