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U.S. Mortgage Crisis Rivals S&L Meltdown
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10 December 2007 | By GREG IP , MARK WHITEHOUSE and AARON LUCCHETTI

Posted on 12/10/2007 7:13:37 AM PST by shrinkermd

The home has long been the bedrock asset of most American families. Now, its value has become the biggest question mark hanging over the global economy

Over the past decade, Wall Street built a market for more than $2 trillion in securities sold globally and backed by loans to U.S. homeowners on two long-accepted beliefs and one newer one. The prevailing logic: The value of the American home would never fall nationwide, and people would almost always make their mortgage payments. The more recent twist: Packaging mortgage loans and turning them into securities would make the global economy more resilient if anything went wrong.

In a matter of months, though, much of the promise of the new financial architecture -- together with its underlying assumptions -- has proven to be a mirage. As house prices fall and homeowners default on mortgages at troubling rates, the pain has spread far and wide.

So far, the potential losses look manageable compared with the savings-and-loan crisis of the 1980s and the tech-stock crash of 2000-02. But the housing debacle could yet take years to work out

To ease the pain, the Federal Reserve has cut short-term interest rates twice and is expected to cut them further tomorrow. The Bush administration has also pressed for private-sector curative measures. First, it urged big banks to create a new entity to buy some mortgage-linked securities that don't have a ready market now. And a plan finalized last week calls for freezing interest payments on perhaps hundreds of thousands of qualifying homeowners whose mortgage notes are set to rise. Both ideas are controversial. They are hailed by some as well-conceived financial first aid and criticized by others as inadequate -- or an impediment to crisis resolution.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crisis; fed; housing; mortgage; subprime
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1 posted on 12/10/2007 7:13:38 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd; Petronsky; Toddsterpatriot
So far, the potential losses look manageable compared with the savings-and-loan crisis of the 1980s and the tech-stock crash of 2000-02.

And we survived both of those. Imagine that. It might not be doomsday.

2 posted on 12/10/2007 7:16:59 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Larry Lucido

And we survived both of those. Imagine that. It might not be doomsday.


I agree with you but the amazing thing is that we DID NOT learn anything from the S&L crises.


3 posted on 12/10/2007 7:23:10 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: shrinkermd

Only if the S&L crises was a hysterically over blown non crises that effects 95% of American home owners not at all.


4 posted on 12/10/2007 7:25:40 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Maybe we did. Hopefully we learned to not use the Fed Govt to bail out fat cat Bankers who make stupid load decisions.

This “crisis” exists only in some mega bank board rooms and the US Junk media ignorant drama queen minds.


5 posted on 12/10/2007 7:27:29 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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To: shrinkermd

I’ve seen final-tally numbers for the S&L fiasco in the $120B area. With UBS coughing up another $10B in blood today I think we’re up to about $80B so far. We’ll get there, and then we’ll pass it, and then we’ll keep going.


6 posted on 12/10/2007 7:27:51 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
I’ve seen final-tally numbers for the S&L fiasco in the $120B area.

That's cost to the taxpayer.

With UBS coughing up another $10B in blood today I think we’re up to about $80B so far. We’ll get there, and then we’ll pass it, and then we’ll keep going.

That's not a cost to the taxpayer.

7 posted on 12/10/2007 7:31:11 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Larry Lucido
And we survived both of those. Imagine that. It might not be doomsday

STOP IT ! you're making Hydroshock & ex-texan very sad,
8 posted on 12/10/2007 7:34:16 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: shrinkermd

More scare-mongering so that Wall Street can bail themselves out... meanwhile our dollar goes into the toilet and the rest of us are paying $3 per gallon instead of $2.50 per gallon so that lower interest rates can bail out guys making $5 million bonuses.


9 posted on 12/10/2007 7:34:40 AM PST by ikka
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To: jiggyboy
We’ll get there, and then we’ll pass it, and then we’ll keep going.

And going, and going, and going.... Right?

10 posted on 12/10/2007 7:37:13 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: MNJohnnie
This “crisis” exists only in some mega bank board rooms and the US Junk media ignorant drama queen minds.

Dittos from Texas. Alan Greenspawn raised the usury rates much, much too high, so minds are at work to roto-rooter Alan's sewage drains.

11 posted on 12/10/2007 7:37:50 AM PST by BlabItGrabIt ("It's The Economy, Stupid" ruse might be failing?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The matter at hand is the scale of the problem.


12 posted on 12/10/2007 7:39:41 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: stylin19a
Hey, that's my line. LOL!

Hydroshock is still banned. Or maybe his doom and gloom was so heavy, it collapsed into a black hole and pulled him in.

13 posted on 12/10/2007 7:39:43 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: jiggyboy
Write downs aren’t the same as losses, yet.
14 posted on 12/10/2007 7:41:07 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Larry Lucido

Yep. Wake me up when admitted CDO losses break $300B. Then we can order another pitcher and start to ponder what the final tally will be.


15 posted on 12/10/2007 7:43:41 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

But that’s going to be a cost to the economy.

If the banks lose their shirts, they are going to tighten up the credit regardless. Companies won’t be able to issue bonds to expand, Venture Capitalists won’t be able to fund new startups, Home buyers won’t get mortgages, Small Businessmen won’t be able to get affordable loans.

Who do you think will come in a pick up the slack?
China.


16 posted on 12/10/2007 7:48:02 AM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: PeterPrinciple
I am not amazed. The idiots in our government believe that "everyone" should be a "homeowner", even if they take a zero-money-down ARM, and have no credit history. Changing this dangerous cycle would amount to "discrimination" which is the American equivalent to blasphemy in Saudi Arabia.

While we're at it, let's end the government guarantee of Fannie and Freddie, and indict Franklin Raines.

17 posted on 12/10/2007 7:49:24 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Philly Nomad

Nah, the Chis made the mistake of holding their reserves in dollars, and are getting creamed by the falling dollar. Our depreciated dollar and the inflation in commodity prices has helped out the oil producing states more than anyone else. In other words, it may very likely be petrodollars from the Emirates/Qatar/Saudi that will bail us out.


18 posted on 12/10/2007 7:52:41 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: PeterPrinciple

What cannot be learned, apparently, is how not to let schemers take control of major financial institutions. Furthermore, most of them get away with it. A few sacrifical goats are offered up. but most go off into retirement with huge amounts of money.


19 posted on 12/10/2007 7:57:20 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Philly Nomad
The Fed will most likely keep interest rates low to provide the “liquidity” to prop up financial institutions’ balance sheets. This will help, not hurt, all of the things you mentioned (start-ups, mortgages, business loans, etc.).
20 posted on 12/10/2007 8:02:19 AM PST by riverdawg
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