Posted on 12/10/2007 12:51:08 PM PST by ovrtaxt
Why yes, an accurate description probably makes more sense that an inaccurate pejorative.
I meant no disrespect.
Oh, of course not. People usually take being called a mercenary as a sign of deep respect.
I do want them to be subject to some type of law so that the handful of bad ones can’t go around raping people without consequences, which is the current situation.
The legal system we have places the burden of proof on the accuser, not the accused. Are you suggesting that rather than be placed under our constitutional system, private contractors be placed under a new system wherein the accused have the burden?
While I’m about as far from a leftist as you can get, I’ll take their logic over that of a retard.
This statement assumes a number of facts for which there are little evidence.
Feel free to make snarky comments. However, the gal won a court case when she sued for wrongful firing. Here is the Timesonline article about her case. I can also post to a Michelle Malkin Article discussing it if this source isn’t good enough for you. This whole thing was part of the scandal’s which rocked the U.N. a few years ago.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article835948.ece
If the UN is closely involved, that certainly lends credibilty to the girls story.
The point that you deftly avoid addressing is the legal system is not adequately covering contractors working overseas. Your strawman mischaracterization of my position about wanting to treat them unfairly is just that.
Your skills at argument-by-strawman are impressive. I look forward to your next confabulation.
These mercenaries...
Excuse me?
Excuse the hell out of me, Mr Deathmonger, but you are fool! You either have no flaming idea of what you are talking about, or you are a plant. Which is it?
That's the opinion of some. Contractors occupy an interesting niche. Many of them are US citizens, many of them are not. Those who are US citizens are clearly not on US soil, but on the soil of another sovereign nation, the Republic of Iraq. Yet the Republic of Iraq does not claim legal jurisdiction over them. The US military does not exercise jurisdiction over civilians.
So since the military can't exercise jurisdiction over them, since Iraq won't and since no civilian US jurisidiction covers them, they have arbitration agreements in place instead.
If you want the US citizen contractors governed by US law it will require a major act of Congress with Constitutional implications. And if you want non-US citizen contractors governed by US law you are going to need the agreement of their respective countries.
Your strawman mischaracterization of my position about wanting to treat them unfairly is just that.
You need to reexamine your understanding of the term "strawman." Unless you really believe that calling people mercenaries and adjudging them guilty of rape without trial is treating people "fairly."
I look forward to your next confabulation.
It is no fable that you called contractors "mercenaries." It really happened, I assure you. There is a thread history to prove it.
AMEN!
The U.N. involvement is with another prior story that came up earlier in the thread involving abuses in Bosnia and Kosovo by UN workers including employees of some American Corporations.
Companies are not their employees...
Yes, he certainly did and I saw it as well. And I have seen no retraction or apology.
Usually people who call others "mercenaries" are people who are bitter losers who work full-time at Taco Bell or Starbucks.
But it's everybody else's fault that they can't attain anything loftier than that, eh, Deathmonger?
Signed,
Allegra
NOT a Mercenary
I’m sorry, it was not the right word. I hope your trauma heals.
And you flatter yourself, too. Seek help for that insecurity problem.
It's not too late.
“I’m guessing she’s holding KBR (and everyone else who they told) responsible for....what? Not firing the accused?”
Not for not firing the accused, for threatening her, and putting her under armed guard in a shipping container with no communication and no food. She finally got a guard to let her use a cell phone and called her father. He called a congressman (Poe-R), who had the State Department rescue her. The call to her father, the imprisonment and the rescue are all well documented.
Read more on this story. There is a lot of credibility in Jones’ story, and no explanation at all from KBR to evaluate.
Poe does believe her. Read his statement. Poe is the one who contacted the State Department to rescue her, which they did. He completely believes her.
http://poe.house.gov/
“What also is spun is Rep. Poe’s position in all this. He is a pretty outspoken guy, and I would imagine he would be banging the drum in the press about this. He has not been particularly vocal.”
He hasn’t been really vocal, but his request for an investigation is front and center on his website.
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