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Colorado Church Gunman `Hated Christians'
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-10-07 | Judith Kohler

Posted on 12/10/2007 2:24:21 PM PST by tcrlaf

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — The deadly shooting sprees at a megachurch and a missionary training school were believed to have been carried out by the same person — a 24-year-old suburban Denver man who "hated Christians," a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the investigation, identified the gunman as Matthew Murray, the son of a neurologist who is a prominent researcher on multiple sclerosis.

Five people — including a gunman — were killed, and five others wounded Sunday in the two eruptions of violence 12 hours and 65 miles apart.

The first attack took place at a youth missionary training center in the Denver suburb of Arvata; the other happened at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, where the gunman was shot and killed by a security guard.

The law enforcement official said Murray was believed to be the gunman in both attacks. Murray did not appear to have a criminal history but "hated Christians," the official said. The official did not know Murray's religion, if any.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; christian; church; rkba; ropma; shooter; shooting; thegoldencompass
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To: xjcsa
You know what Jesus says after listing all of those things? He says this: “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” All those things did indeed happen in that generation, in the events in and surrounding the Roman siege and destruction of Jerusalem around 70AD and concurrent events throughout the Roman empire.

Note my tagline.

121 posted on 12/10/2007 4:12:32 PM PST by RJR_fan (Lovers and winners shape the future. Losers and whiners TRY TO PREDICT it.)
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To: tcrlaf
Colorado Church Gunman `Hated Christians'

geez....sounds like some folks here....thankfully a minority

122 posted on 12/10/2007 4:14:25 PM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson)
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To: xjcsa; HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
What would possess you to think that passage had anything to do with 21st century America?

Actually, it's not a "what," but a "who" that profits when Christians become unpaid cheerleaders for the other team, and proclaim as "gospel" the "certainty" of the global triumph of evil.

123 posted on 12/10/2007 4:14:28 PM PST by RJR_fan (Lovers and winners shape the future. Losers and whiners TRY TO PREDICT it.)
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To: Larry Lucido

And those are just the reprintable comments...


124 posted on 12/10/2007 4:14:36 PM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: Morgana

Churches have had armed security at least since they started receiving threats, and most clearly since the early nineties when a gunman entered Wedgewood Baptist Church and shot 7 people to death (most were teenagers).

The world is a violent place and pastors of large churches receive threats weekly.


125 posted on 12/10/2007 4:15:22 PM PST by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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To: ECM
Maybe he became a Hasidic Jew ;)

Bigot.

126 posted on 12/10/2007 4:17:10 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Eva
I will have to agree with you about the anti-Christian, and especially Evangelicals movement.
127 posted on 12/10/2007 4:17:22 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Morgana

Why do you think your church doesn’t have to do this?


129 posted on 12/10/2007 4:19:38 PM PST by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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To: twntaipan

I can show you THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of hate-filled Anti-Christian postings from just a SINGLE message board, up to and including calls for the mass murder of Christians.

And this is repeated a thousand times, all over the Internet.

“We” are the new pariah, helped along by a largely-gay media that considers anything Christian to be “Hate” because of our stand against gays and abortion...


130 posted on 12/10/2007 4:19:49 PM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: RJR_fan

Very nice.


131 posted on 12/10/2007 4:19:59 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: Morgana

He wasn’t kicked out of this church. He was, apparently, kicked out the Youth With A Mission training school, and that was three years ago.

He has no known connection to the New Life church...just hatred for Christians.


134 posted on 12/10/2007 4:24:54 PM PST by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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To: Morgana

Long Island RR shooter wasn’t targeting Christians

VA TECH shooter wasn’t targeting Christians

The Mall shooter wasn’t targeting Christians

Nuts target whoever they perceive as worthy of being shot


136 posted on 12/10/2007 4:28:55 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: tcrlaf
I can show you THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of hate-filled Anti-Christian postings from just a SINGLE message board, up to and including calls for the mass murder of Christians. And this is repeated a thousand times, all over the Internet.

I've seen it too. It's an epidemic.

137 posted on 12/10/2007 4:30:00 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Morgana

Most threats against churches are not limited to theft.

For good or bad, even in “nice areas” (and fyi, this Colorado Springs church is a very upscale church), the threat is against the church for being the church...not against their “stuff”; against them. As another poster has said, there are thousands of web sites with threats of violence against Christians here in the USA.


138 posted on 12/10/2007 4:31:32 PM PST by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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To: Morgana

The YWAM training school is the first site where this gunman struck. He killed two of their staffers (they train young people to serve as missionaries. They are a great organization full of incredible people).

He went there to kill on Saturday and struck around midnight.


140 posted on 12/10/2007 4:33:34 PM PST by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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