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The Pope condemns the climate-change scaremongers
Daily Mail ^ | December 11, 2007 | Simon Caldwell

Posted on 12/11/2007 11:29:25 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate-change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.

The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.

The German-born Pontiff said that while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma of the environmentalist movement.

His remarks will be made in his annual message for World Peace Day on January 1, but they were released as delegates from all over the world convened on the Indonesian holiday island of Bali for UN climate change talks.

The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind.

"Humanity today is rightly concerned about the ecological balance of tomorrow," he said in the message entitled "The Human Family, A Community of Peace".

"It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances.

"If the protection of the environment involves costs, they should be justly distributed, taking due account of the different levels of development of various countries and the need for solidarity with future generations.

"Prudence does not mean failing to accept responsibilities and postponing decisions; it means being committed to making joint decisions after pondering responsibly the road to be taken."

Efforts to protect the environment should seek "agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances", the Pope said.

He added that to further the cause of world peace it was sensible for nations to "choose the path of dialogue rather than the path of unilateral decisions" in how to cooperate responsibly on conserving the planet.

The Pope's message is traditionally sent to heads of government and international organisations.

His remarks reveal that while the Pope acknowledges that problems may be associated with unbridled development and climate change, he believes the case against global warming to be over-hyped.

A broad consensus is developing among the world's scientific community over the evils of climate change.

But there is also an intransigent body of scientific opinion which continues to insist that industrial emissions are not to blame for the phenomenon.

Such scientists point out that fluctuations in the earth's temperature are normal and can often be caused by waves of heat generated by the sun. Other critics of environmentalism have compared the movement to a burgeoning industry in its own right.

In the spring, the Vatican hosted a conference on climate change that was welcomed by environmentalists.

But senior cardinals close to the Vatican have since expressed doubts about a movement which has been likened by critics to be just as dogmatic in its assumptions as any religion.

In October, the Australian Cardinal George Pell, the Archbishop of Sydney, caused an outcry when he noted that the atmospheric temperature of Mars had risen by 0.5 degrees celsius.

"The industrial-military complex up on Mars can't be blamed for that," he said in a criticism of Australian scientists who had claimed that carbon emissions would force temperatures on earth to rise by almost five degrees by 2070 unless drastic solutions were enforced.


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KEYWORDS: bxvi; carboncult; catholic; catholiclist; globalwarming; greenreligion
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1 posted on 12/11/2007 11:29:25 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Let’s see if the MSM reports on THIS!!! (Not likely.)


2 posted on 12/11/2007 11:31:23 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I like this guy.


3 posted on 12/11/2007 11:31:48 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Catholics help me out here....is it blasphemous to say the Pope kicks ass?


4 posted on 12/11/2007 11:31:51 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Excellent news.


5 posted on 12/11/2007 11:32:57 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (The MSM is bad, except when they suit our purposes..............)
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To: Domandred

Not when he does!


7 posted on 12/11/2007 11:33:54 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I love my Pope...

Most excellent!


8 posted on 12/11/2007 11:34:46 AM PST by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: duffmadison
oh my G_d i agree with an EX-Nazi

An observation that has nothing to do with Pope Benedict.

9 posted on 12/11/2007 11:35:08 AM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Salvation

May God Bless you Pope Benedict. Just darn.


10 posted on 12/11/2007 11:35:43 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.
Santo Subito!
11 posted on 12/11/2007 11:35:52 AM PST by eastsider (There's a Hucker born every minute.)
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To: Domandred

No indeed! The angels are toasting Jack Daniels as I write:
Ad Majorem Dei Gloria!


12 posted on 12/11/2007 11:35:54 AM PST by jobim
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To: duffmadison
oh my G_d i agree with an EX-Nazi

Maybe you are a Neo- then?!

13 posted on 12/11/2007 11:35:56 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Got bias?

A broad consensus is developing among the world's scientific community over the evils of climate change.

Oooohhhh. Nice. A broad consensus, all fluffy and light.

But there is also an intransigent body of scientific opinion which continues to insist that industrial emissions are not to blame for the phenomenon.

Oh, dear. Those intransigents, again. Not very nice at all.

14 posted on 12/11/2007 11:36:28 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good for Pope Benedict. And once again for Cardinal Pell.


15 posted on 12/11/2007 11:37:48 AM PST by LordBridey
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A broad consensus is developing among the world's scientific community over the evils of climate change.

But there is also an intransigent body of scientific opinion which continues to insist that industrial emissions are not to blame for the phenomenon.

"Broad consensus" vs "intransigent opinion." No bias there. . . .

16 posted on 12/11/2007 11:38:40 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I really like Pope Benedict more and more.


17 posted on 12/11/2007 11:39:06 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Domandred

“Catholics help me out here....is it blasphemous to say the Pope kicks ass?”

Let’s see...

Christ in his brief time on Earth selectively kicked ass on numerous occasions.

The Pope, through St. Peter, is Christ’s directly designated representative and guardian of The Church here on Earth.

So I’m going to go with Yes, it is permissable to recognize and celebrate a Papal butt walloping.


18 posted on 12/11/2007 11:39:20 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The following pic is to confirm what is NOT the cause of warming on Earth.

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19 posted on 12/11/2007 11:39:24 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Good to hear. I was concerned that he was going over to the dark side on this issue b some things he said a while back. At the time the remarks sounded a little to mindlessly green to me.
20 posted on 12/11/2007 11:41:18 AM PST by isrul
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To: Domandred

Nah, some of our popes had ‘interesting’ histories.


21 posted on 12/11/2007 11:41:41 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Izzy Dunne
“A broad consensus is developing among the world’s scientific community over the evils of climate change.”

There is a broad consensus of ideology forming a democrat party. That does not mean the world should live that way. There is a broad consensus of ideology forming a communist party. That does not mean the world should live that way. There is a broad consensus of ideology forming a socialist party. That does not mean the world should live that way. That does not mean the world should live that way. Worth repeating...

22 posted on 12/11/2007 11:41:52 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Domandred

Who cares? The Pope Kicks Ass!


23 posted on 12/11/2007 11:42:07 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate-change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology

Good luck with that, Padre

24 posted on 12/11/2007 11:42:08 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Just one little piece of that solar flare is incredibly larger than Earth.

Jeez, I need to refresh my memory about all things space.


25 posted on 12/11/2007 11:42:25 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: Cicero

I caught that, too. “...continues to insist” also evokes a bratty, whining child telling a lie.

I despise the Left and their slaves in the MSM.


26 posted on 12/11/2007 11:42:40 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good for him. Many liberal clergy are saddened.


27 posted on 12/11/2007 11:42:54 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:




Antarctic Temperature Trend 1982-2004:



This map (left) shows key areas of Antarctica, including the vast East Antarctic ice sheet. The image on the right shows which areas of the continent's ice are thickening (coloured yellow and red) and thinning (coloured blue). © (Left)British Antarctic Survey, (Right)Science

From the European Space Agency: ERS altimeter survey shows growth of Greenland Ice Sheet interior:

Greenland ice-sheet elevation change in cm/year (see colour scale) derived from 11 years of ERS-1/ERS-2 satellite altimeter data, 1992-2003, excluding some ice-sheet marginal areas (white). +5.4 cm/year, or ~5 cm/year when corrected for bedrock uplift.




28 posted on 12/11/2007 11:43:02 AM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Pope to Al Gore:

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

29 posted on 12/11/2007 11:43:56 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Pope apparently knows more science than the Nobel Peace Prize committee does.


30 posted on 12/11/2007 11:46:25 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Domandred
NOPE!

This is a great man!

A few weeks ago, the Pope also said the current music sung in catholic churches S*CKS! (My words, not his!)

I love my pope!

31 posted on 12/11/2007 11:46:26 AM PST by sillsfan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How many polar bears does the Pope have? /Stalin


32 posted on 12/11/2007 11:46:30 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: RosieCotton; WOSG
I love my Pope...

I love my Pope too! He truly sees the evil of totalitarianism behind the evil AGW crowd.

33 posted on 12/11/2007 11:47:30 AM PST by sand88
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To: lesser_satan

Wrong pope!

Not JPII, Benedict XVI!


34 posted on 12/11/2007 11:47:31 AM PST by sillsfan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I knew I liked this pope.


35 posted on 12/11/2007 11:48:47 AM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: All
The Vatican has a science research program:

The Vatican Observatory (in Arizona)


36 posted on 12/11/2007 11:49:33 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: sillsfan

I know, but I couldn’t find a shopped pic of Benedict with that caption.


37 posted on 12/11/2007 11:50:09 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bravo to the pope


38 posted on 12/11/2007 11:51:55 AM PST by Bobkk47
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To: Izzy Dunne

Absolutely right on the bias, but the article did label the ClimateLiars as “prophets of doom”, a rather non-complimentary description.

Probably an editorial oversight for which there will be journalistic demotions at the Daily Mail.


39 posted on 12/11/2007 11:51:58 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions,..."

Too late Pope! We now have this false prophet leading the assualt on reason, science and common sense:


40 posted on 12/11/2007 11:52:17 AM PST by avacado
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To: sillsfan

Where is the link to that. I’d love to read that. I, as a Catholic agree with him on these two issues.


41 posted on 12/11/2007 11:52:20 AM PST by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BUMP!


42 posted on 12/11/2007 11:52:33 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Good line: "a movement which has been likened by critics to be just as dogmatic in its assumptions as any religion"
43 posted on 12/11/2007 11:52:59 AM PST by polymuser (In the twinkling of an eye...)
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To: lesser_satan

hahah
Fair enough!


44 posted on 12/11/2007 11:54:28 AM PST by sillsfan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m sure his sentiment will be echoed by Catholic Democrats. /s


45 posted on 12/11/2007 11:55:40 AM PST by polymuser (In the twinkling of an eye...)
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To: agere_contra
How many polar bears does the Pope have? /Stalin

He he he...

46 posted on 12/11/2007 11:56:10 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: agere_contra

nice


47 posted on 12/11/2007 12:00:37 PM PST by Andyman (The truth shall make you freep.)
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To: EyeGuy
the article did label the ClimateLiars as “prophets of doom”

It's hard to tell if those are the Pope's words, or the reporter's.

Since it's negative (against the Algorians), I would lean toward it being the Pope's words. Reporters have something in their union contract about saying bad things about the Algorians.

48 posted on 12/11/2007 12:03:59 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: isrul
I was concerned that he was going over to the dark side on this issue

MSM has a nasty habit of taking some things he says, ignoring others, and making him appear to be some sort of socialist or eco-weenie. They did that to his prececessor, as well.

49 posted on 12/11/2007 12:05:57 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Cicero
You must parse Vatican emissions carefully.

A broad consensus is developing among the world's scientific community over the evils of climate change.
Ain't nobody who disagrees that there is evidence of climate change. It's an observed phenomenon. even if nobody's sure how to quantify it.

intransigent body of scientific opinion which continues to insist that industrial emissions are not to blame
Many reputable scientists are "intransigent" i.e., they insist on observable evidence, of which there ain't much, that this might be a man-made (anthropogenic) change.

And nowhere does the Supreme Pontiff and former hitlerjugend member use the stupid code words, "Global Warming." A completely rational approach to the situation.

50 posted on 12/11/2007 12:06:30 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Round up the Dark Horses, boys. This herd of contenders ain't makin' it.)
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