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Defense Department Notifies Congress of Furlough Moves (thanks, Dems)
DefenseLink ^ | 12-11-07

Posted on 12/11/2007 1:24:44 PM PST by STARWISE

The Defense Department has officially notified Congress that the department will begin the furlough process for civilian employees of the Army, the Marine Corps and the combatant commands.

Congressional leaders have released a letter from Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England dated Dec. 7. In it, England gave legislators the required 45-day notice before beginning furloughs.

The furloughs will become necessary if Congress does not pass a global war on terror spending bill. “Without GWOT funding, only operations and maintenance funds in the base budget are available to cover war-related costs,” England said in the letter. “O&M funds also cover salary costs for a large number of Army and Marine Corps civilian employees.”

England reminded legislators of a letter he sent Nov. 8 to explain what would happen without supplemental war funding. “I emphasized that without this critical funding, the department would have no choice but to deplete key appropriations accounts in order to sustain essential military operations around the world,” he wrote in his Dec. 7 letter.

The House passed a $50 billion bill last month with funds to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but it included legislation that directs the president to withdraw most combat troops from Iraq by December 2008. The measure failed in the Senate. President Bush has vowed to veto any bill that includes a troop-withdrawal timetable.

England’s letter begins a process that could affect 100,000 civilian employees. “Specific furlough notices will be issued in mid-January,” England said in his letter. “The department will also begin notifying appropriate labor organizations.”

If the legislation does not pass, the Army will be the first service affected, in mid-February, and the Marine Corps about a month later. The services will be forced to divert operations and maintenance funds to continuing combat operations. Civilian employees in the United States and overseas would be affected.

“The furlough will negatively affect our ability to execute base operations and training activities,” England wrote. “More importantly, it will affect the critical support our civilian employees provide to our warfighters -- support which is key to our current operations in both Afghanistan and Iraq.”

Congress has passed a $460 billion Defense Appropriations Act for 2008, but this is not enough to fund ongoing operations.

England told the lawmakers the Defense Department has no choice but to begin the furlough process. “While these actions will be detrimental to the nation, there are no other viable alternatives without additional congressional funding,” he wrote.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; civiliansupport; congress; defensespending; denyfunds; dod; furlough; gates; gordonengland; hurtthetroops; pelosi; reid
“The furlough will negatively affect our ability to execute base operations and training activities,” England wrote. “More importantly, it will affect the critical support our civilian employees provide to our warfighters -- support which is key to our current operations in both Afghanistan and Iraq.”

*snip*

England told the lawmakers the Defense Department has no choice but to begin the furlough process. “While these actions will be detrimental to the nation, there are no other viable alternatives without additional congressional funding,” he wrote.

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So freaking despicable of these political tyrants.

1 posted on 12/11/2007 1:24:45 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE
Bill Klinton shut down the government and blamed it on Knute.

Non essential people got 5 days off and later were payed for it. Essential personel had to work and got nothing extra. Klinton took money out of the employees 401k funds to pay the government then payed it back. Can you imagine what would happen to private company taking 401k monies?

I am with you in spirit DOD but I am retired this time.

2 posted on 12/11/2007 1:29:50 PM PST by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: 2LT Radix jr; 80 Square Miles; acad1228; AirForceMom; Alas Babylon!; AliVeritas; Anti-MSM; ...

Evil congresscritters ~~PING!


3 posted on 12/11/2007 1:31:30 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Hope they start with CA, PA, MA, DE, NY, NM, IL, MD and other RAT strongholds.

I’d also get serious on closing bases in those states.


4 posted on 12/11/2007 1:32:33 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: STARWISE

BTTT


5 posted on 12/11/2007 1:39:20 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: STARWISE

No pressure here. The Dems will not care ... until Organized Labor Leaders begin blasting them to task in the MSM.


6 posted on 12/11/2007 1:45:13 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: STARWISE

Bet the funding bill is passed before the donkeys go home for Christmas. Dengy harry has already spoken out on this...doesn’t want Bush bashing congress while on vacation because the funding bill for the Defense Dept wasn’t approved...besides, most of the layoffs will be in donkey districts...and it’d be the majorities fault...military contractors will be laid off before Christmas...that too will be in mostly donkey districts...


7 posted on 12/11/2007 1:45:47 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

I hope they do. And I sometimes wonder if they give ANY
thought to the military, military family and military
supporter VOTES out there that would be severely at
risk, should they do this dastardly deed.


8 posted on 12/11/2007 1:48:23 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
So freaking despicable of these political tyrants.

Yes it is!!!
I thought they had backed down and were going to fund the troops? Are they planning to sneak any underhanded prize into it this time? Remember, last timem at the last minute they raised minimum wage over 2.00/hour in the DoD bill.

9 posted on 12/11/2007 1:50:49 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: STARWISE
The union men and women can thank their Moveon division of the Democrat Party.
10 posted on 12/11/2007 1:53:04 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: mountainlyons
Non essential people got 5 days off and later were payed for it.

Civil servants got paid for their time off. Contractors did not. They were forced to take vacation time or LWOP.

11 posted on 12/11/2007 1:55:18 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: STARWISE

I think that there will be no need to do so as the traitors have been defeated again and they said that they are going to approve the funds for the war without any conditions.


12 posted on 12/11/2007 1:55:57 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: STARWISE

It would be nice if we could withhold our taxes; That was the reason they were instituted after all.

They should shut down mil installations (and request the companies that manufacture parts and services move as well),in blue states. Since they like to reap the rewards (indeed most of their reps that cry no war hold defense stocks and cater to their lobbyists), and don’t give a damn about the military. Let them lose the military and jobs... see who would be the first crying for Homeland Security money and Gov. help... let the illegals they wanted to spend the weekend in Congress over defend and take the jobs. I wonder if someone’s in the national guard in one state, can they move and go to the guard in another state?

I know, ridiculous... I wish though.


13 posted on 12/11/2007 1:56:04 PM PST by AliVeritas (Led Zep back by Viking Kitty request.)
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To: STARWISE

this makes me furious


14 posted on 12/11/2007 1:56:36 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: STARWISE

Yep, look for a bill to reach Bush’s desk...a bill he can sign...they’re dragging this out for the anti war crowd...of course, they’ve tried so very hard to not pass one till Feb....telling the defense dept. to borrow money from here and here...looks like the defense dept ain’t goin’ to bite...holding their feet to the fire...it appears.


15 posted on 12/11/2007 1:56:40 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: NTHockey

Why? Do you even have a remote clue as to what you’re talking about or do you just drive by and throw flaming bags of crap around then drive off?

And btw, I’m in the defense industry working in CA and our platform is absolutely critical to the WOT.

I note that you don’t claim your state on your page.

SZ


16 posted on 12/11/2007 1:58:39 PM PST by SZonian (Tagline under repair until further notice)
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To: STARWISE

You know what, I said it before when they pulled this...

They would not get one letter of legislation passed... nothing. I would get the spineless together so those SOBs will hold the line... instead of flaking on Sunday shows and smoking cigars at the old boy’s club with the dems.

This isn’t a game.


17 posted on 12/11/2007 1:58:42 PM PST by AliVeritas (Led Zep back by Viking Kitty request.)
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To: K-oneTexas
No pressure here. The Dems will not care ... until Organized Labor Leaders begin blasting them to task in the MSM.

Organized labor won't care. They will probably be happy about it. Civil servants (union) always get paid for the time they were off work during a shutdown as part of the final budget agreement. Those horrible contractors (nonunion) do not. The union members get a little unplanned but paid holiday, and the unions get to claim credit for it and point out how the contractors didn't get the same deal and had to burn vacation time and take leave without pay.

18 posted on 12/11/2007 1:58:59 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: STARWISE
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19 posted on 12/11/2007 2:00:01 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: STARWISE

The Democrats are determined to destroy our military, and this ploy of not funding it is their ideal method to do so.


20 posted on 12/11/2007 2:01:28 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: untrained skeptic

I was not given the option of leave, I had to work! Now I can’t get a day off or take any sick time since I am retired!


21 posted on 12/11/2007 2:04:19 PM PST by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: mountainlyons; NTHockey

“Essential personel had to work and got nothing extra.”

That’s why I didn’t notice it; I still had to work.


22 posted on 12/11/2007 2:06:05 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: mountainlyons

amen....I worked through the last shutdown - without complaining - knowing in my head I was going to be paid but not so sure in my heart....everyone blamed the R’s - but of course the media was piling on....let’s see if they blame the rats this time....not! And yeah, I’m retired now so don’t give a rat’s behind....


23 posted on 12/11/2007 2:06:56 PM PST by BamaDi (Roll Tide Roll......Saban's here - never fear!)
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To: BamaDi

Thank you to those of you who continued your efforts in the defense of our country under hardship...sounds like it was the responsible thing to do.


24 posted on 12/11/2007 2:10:14 PM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: AliVeritas
I wonder if someone’s in the national guard in one state, can they move and go to the guard in another state?

My DIL did that - AZ to OK - there needs to be an opening for your skill/specialty in the new state.

25 posted on 12/11/2007 2:47:27 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: NTHockey

Are there still bases in CA that haven’t closed???
(sarcasm off now, I think)


26 posted on 12/11/2007 3:53:23 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: snowsislander

If certain nations like Iran, NK, China, and others were to accomplish the feat of diverting $50 billion from our military, it would be considered an act of war. It certainly could be a financial goal during any military conflict with an enemy nation. So, what’s the difference here, other than it being the “enemy within”.


27 posted on 12/11/2007 4:28:44 PM PST by C210N
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28 posted on 12/11/2007 4:45:57 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AliVeritas
I wonder if someone’s in the national guard in one state, can they move and go to the guard in another state?

Yes.

You might not even have to move - if your MOS is not in one state, you may have to find a unit within a reasonable distance, and that could mean across state lines. An Inter-state Transfer is all that's needed. Contact the Guard for details.

29 posted on 12/11/2007 4:48:12 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: STARWISE
AWWW...How nice that the congress can decide if it will fund the troops or not before going home for Christmas break to be with their families. Meanwhile said troops will be spending another Christmas away from home and family doing their jobs. Now congress needs to do it’s job. So cut the political BS and GIVE OUR TROOPS THE $#&%!*& MONEY THEY NEED!! IDIOTS!!!
30 posted on 12/11/2007 5:04:40 PM PST by skully (SHH!! Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting moonbat.)
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To: Old Sarge

That’s exactly right. I lived in NY, and my guard unit was in Mass.


31 posted on 12/11/2007 5:07:19 PM PST by skully (SHH!! Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting moonbat.)
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To: skully

*blushing* I was a recruiter, once...


32 posted on 12/11/2007 5:10:59 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Old Sarge
Old Sarge wrote:
*blushing* I was a recruiter, once...

That explains it then..LOL!! JUST KIDDING SARGE!!!..

I’m already dropping for 50 push ups..LOL!!

33 posted on 12/11/2007 5:17:23 PM PST by skully (SHH!! Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting moonbat.)
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To: STARWISE

Plan of action:
1) lay off all civilians in lib dem districts only
2) suspend activity of bases in lib dem districts only. temporarily relocate said activities and personnel to more facilities in more friendly districts.
3) suspend all contracts for businesses located in lib dem districts only.
4) sit back and enjoy the show.


34 posted on 12/12/2007 5:42:36 AM PST by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: STARWISE

Gee.

Where are the requisite comments about gov’t employees being lazy, worhtless, sandcrabs who do nothing, accomplish nothing and would be noticed if they were not there?


35 posted on 12/12/2007 5:56:29 AM PST by PurpleMan
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