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The Episcopal Church losing many congregations
Ocala Star-Banner ^ | December 12, 2007 | LASHONDA STINSON

Posted on 12/12/2007 2:17:53 PM PST by Fido969

"The problem in our church [national] is about the lack of respect for the authority of scripture and the nature, character and work of Jesus Christ," said Curran, an Episcopal priest for 15 years. "It's about the failed leadership of The Episcopal Church and whether or not we will continue to be under the authority of a failed leadership. And for many of us, the answer is no."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ecusa; episcopalchurch; fl; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; proabortion; prochoice; schism; tec
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Someone should tell those American Episcopal Leaders: The Bible was written to change the sinner - NOT the other way around.
1 posted on 12/12/2007 2:17:54 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969

I’m starting to see the same thing in different areas of the Catholic Church.

There is a growing “peace and justice” wing that seems to exercise a disproportionate amount of strength in certain geographical areas.


2 posted on 12/12/2007 2:33:56 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

Our church in VA left the Episcopal Church and is now part of the Anglican Mission in America.....


3 posted on 12/12/2007 2:37:36 PM PST by Gopher Broke (Run Fred, Run http://www.fred08.com/)
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To: Fido969

The Episcopal church has become a lot like FORD or Miller Beer, too much support for the homosexual agenda.
Hope they all fail.


4 posted on 12/12/2007 2:37:57 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Fido969
Someone should tell those American Episcopal Leaders: The Bible was written to change the sinner - NOT the other way around.

Some years ago I coined the phrase "The church was made to change people's minds; not change itself to suit peoples minds".

Glad we agree!

5 posted on 12/12/2007 2:41:19 PM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: MplsSteve
I’m starting to see the same thing in different areas of the Catholic Church. There is a growing “peace and justice” wing that seems to exercise a disproportionate amount of strength in certain geographical areas.

Maybe you just didn't notice it earlier. The leaders of the liberal and largely dissident Catholic movement are mostly graying, although they have succeeded in doing a lot of damage.

I was an Episcopalian before I was a Catholic. In some ways, the Catholic Church led the way into dissent after Vatican 2, and the Episcopal Church unfortunately followed their lead. But the difference is that the Catholic Church has the Pope and the Magisterium, while the Episcopal Church for many years has been a warm & fuzzy consensus with no real leadership.

You could say that the Archbishop of Canterbury runs the show, but he doesn't have that much influence, even in England, and certainly not over the whole Anglican communion. He only has moral suasion, and over the years most of that has been kicked away.

As a result, the Catholic Church will recover, but the Episcopal Church may not.

6 posted on 12/12/2007 2:49:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

We still have WAAAYYY too many lefties in the parish, as bishops - we have our own pederast-enabler in NH - Bishop McCormack, and some cardinals (mahoney in LA and whatever his name is in Boston - who JUST recently found his voice and made a statement about pro-abortionist Catholics). We have a LONG way to go.


7 posted on 12/12/2007 3:00:52 PM PST by NHResident
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As a result, the Catholic Church will recover, but the Episcopal Church may not.

Thanks for the good news. As a "cradle Catholic" I needed to hear that reasoning.

8 posted on 12/12/2007 3:01:19 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: MplsSteve
I’m starting to see the same thing in different areas of the Catholic Church.

American bishops are, in the lump, not going to inspire many of the faithful. Still, about the time these bozos actually make a case for abortion or the homosexual agenda, they will finally lose me and a large number of the folks I know.

9 posted on 12/12/2007 3:04:46 PM PST by stevem
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To: IronJack

Try reading the article before posting. It helps.


11 posted on 12/12/2007 3:14:38 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Huber; sionnsar

ping


13 posted on 12/12/2007 3:23:27 PM PST by PAR35
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To: IronJack

I see morals aren’t your strong point either.

I’ll pray for you.


14 posted on 12/12/2007 3:28:51 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Fido969
It is all about money ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).

Episcopalian leadership controls vast resources of phenomenal financial wealth in the form of land and securities. As members flee they surrender these assets to thankful leaders of a perverted church.

Episcopalian clergy have long gravitated to churches for employment and shelter from reality. Would you hire such people? Yet over time they have quietly assumed total control over all these vast episcopalian business resources. It is a fine glorious life for such thieves.

It is shear folly for the remnant to imagine they are sincere about their congregations’ grace, salvation and redemption. No! Forgive the sin and sinner, whatever!.. The fight is over the buildings and assets, not the hearts of men for Christ! When their day is done, they control the church KEY. It is all about their money now. Tuff if you don’t like it.

God will protect the fleeing remnant and offer the door to hell for such cafeteria christians.

15 posted on 12/12/2007 3:47:27 PM PST by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: NHResident

The difference is that the Catholic Church has rogue bishops and rogue priests. But the Episcopal Church has appointed to pro-gay woman as presiding bishop of ECUSA.

And the Archbishop of Canterbury, chosen by Tony Blair and appointed at his order by the Queen, is also pro-gay, although he is currently lying low because he doesn’t want to be seen to preside over a complete disintegration of the Church he has been chosen to lead. But his is a strategic withdrawal, not a return to orthodoxy.

The Catholic Church would have to elect Nancy Pelosi as Pope to reach a similar dismal situation. That is not likely.

In other words, the Catholic Church is dragged down by its share of sinners and unfaithful shepherds, but the Episcopal Church is now actually run by heretics. There’s a difference.


16 posted on 12/12/2007 3:50:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MplsSteve

Actually, the peace and justice wing is being overshadowed by the conservative wing, thank God.


17 posted on 12/12/2007 3:54:37 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Fido969
We left, but it wasn’t because some church up North decided to ordain homosexuals, it was because it became all political on both sides.
18 posted on 12/12/2007 3:58:10 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Gopher Broke

And we in our congregation to the west of Chicago left and are now sheltered under Uganda’s oversight. It’s not been easy, but I think it is worth it. Visit us at www.resurrection.org


19 posted on 12/12/2007 3:59:21 PM PST by Ray'sBeth
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I know several churches that are under the African Episcopal diocese and have heard great things. If we weren’t happy in our new home church (nondenominational) we would check it out. I miss the reverence of the Anglican service.
20 posted on 12/12/2007 4:01:28 PM PST by mnehring
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