Just another day in Israel.
Posted on 12/13/2007 6:49:24 AM PST by rellimpank
Colorado is certainly gaining a worldwide reputation these days. But it's not for our magnificent mountains or fantastic skiing. It's for our horrific murders, first in schools and now in churches. What a reputation! Columbine shook us to the core. Wherever I travel, when I say I'm from Colorado, that's the first thing people ask about. Then we had Platte Canyon. And now the Faith Bible Chapel in Arvada and the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. Children mowed down by severely depressed classmates and demented adults. Where will this stop?
Of course, we're not the only ones. We've seen mass murders across the country. We've seen so many mass murders that we're almost numb. Just one more shooting to note. Unless you're the parents of the children shot to death in Colorado Springs or Arvada or Columbine or Platte Canyon. Or all the other places where people have died at the hands of a deranged killer
(Excerpt) Read more at denverpost.com ...
It will stop when potential victims fight back.
That “gun control” only helps criminals?
The liberal reporters and editors are sweaty numbskulls with too-tight underwear?
I want somebody to 'splain this to me:
If laws will keep guns out of the hands of criminals, then why don't we pass a law against killing people and have all the criminals follow THAT law?
If it only saves one life -
we should outlaw homosexual sodomy.
What a liar.
Typical whinebag lib anti-gun rant.
Colorado is certainly gaining a worldwide reputation these days. But it's not for our magnificent mountains or fantastic skiing. It's for our horrific murders, first in schools and now in churches. What a reputation! Columbine shook us to the core. Wherever I travel, when I say I'm from Colorado, that's the first thing people ask about. Then we had Platte Canyon. And now the Faith Bible Chapel in Arvada and the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. Children mowed down by severely depressed classmates and demented adults. Where will this stop?
Of course, we're not the only ones. We've seen mass murders across the country. We've seen so many mass murders that we're almost numb. Just one more shooting to note. Unless you're the parents of the children shot to death in Colorado Springs or Arvada or Columbine or Platte Canyon. Or all the other places where people have died at the hands of a deranged killer.
We are so focused on the threat of international terrorism, real as that is, that we seem to be unable to deal with the frightening fringe right here at home. Why can a crazed kid or enraged adult get his hands on a gun? Why are assault weapons so widely available that they make it easy to murder kids in a classroom or church parking lot?
We have all kinds of laws to keep people we think are threats out of our country. Why don't we have laws that keep automatic weapons out of the hands of those who threaten us in our daily lives?
I am tired of spineless legislators who are so afraid of the gun lobby that they won't vote to ban assault weapons. I am tired of hearing that "guns don't kill people; people kill people," when it's people who use guns to murder others. I'm sure the founding fathers, who gave us the Second Amendment, could not have imagined grenade launchers and shoulder-held rocket launchers. Are those now also protected by the Second Amendment?
I am tired of having 3 million Americans who refuse to consider any compromise on the possession and use of guns ruling over the majority of Americans who want to bring some sense to the availability of guns. These citizens want to keep guns out of the hands of people with a history of mental illness or spousal abuse or felony convictions.
It's not the Second Amendment that's the problem, it's those who adamantly refuse to agree to any limits on gun use at all.
So, what can a concerned citizen do? Here in Colorado, a teenager, Ben Gelt, got an initiative on the ballot to close a loophole in the background check law. The Internet provides a superb vehicle for organizing like-minded citizens to petition our lawmakers, both here in Colorado and in Washington, to do the right thing when it comes to gun legislation. Through the Web, we can organize protests, phone calls, and e-mail campaigns to make sure our elected representatives know where the majority of us stand.
We can make sure those who have died in these brutal mass killings are not forgotten, that their deaths give us the voice and the courage to stand up for reasonable laws that keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. The best memorial for them would not be a monument, but instead laws that limit the kinds of weapons available and access to those weapons.
Limiting the use of guns does not deny one the right to own and shoot weapons. The right to bear arms is important in our culture. But it should not be an unlimited right. How many more children and young people will die before we figure this out?
(Schoettler was Lieutenant Governor in the final Romer administration)
yeah its a barfer, I say more people need to open carry, would this nutjob or others have attempted something if even 5% of the church members were openly carrying Uzis?
Happens all the time in Israel.
This antiChristian’s bigoted rampage ENDED when he was dropped to the ground by a private security guard who was armed.
None of the laws has apparently stopped one demented killer from achieving their goal.
Try visiting Americans for a change. Don't complain to us about your poor choice of company.
Just another day in Israel.
Or all the other places where people have died at the hands of a deranged killer.
That sentence just isn't complete. it should read...
Or all the other Gun Free places where people have needlessly died at the hands of a deranged killer because he knew he had countless unarmed, defenseless targets.
There, fixed it.
An aside: I think Gail is lying through her teeth when she says people respond with "Columbine" when she sys she's from Colorado. Unless of course it's at the annual gun grabbing Brady Bunch meeting.
(I have a feeling Gail is a Life Member /s).
The reason gun control is effective in Europe, or say Japan (and China) is that every one of the countries where it is practiced at some point in the recent past (or present, in the case of China) they were highly controlled ruthless dictatorships. The people were not used to the civil right to own guns, and, gun ownership—in Europe and the far east—has ALWAYS been tightly regulated. Even Switzerland, the most democratic country on Earth, has universal regulation—i.e. this nation of small towns knows exactly where every gun is.
This approach simply cannot work in the immense United States. We’re bordered on the south by a corrupt 3rd world country—where millions of persons are smuggled in yearly, not to mention literally billions of dollars in drugs—and who knows what else, and our northern border is immense—also not difficult for determined smugglers to breech. There are something like 300 Million guns here already, so given the raw numbers, unless we initiated an absolute totalitarian dictatorship, and suspended the civil right of search and seizure, gun control as they have it in Europe would be utterly impossible.
My point is, even if we did not have a 2nd Amendment—or, even if it will be ignored by the Supreme Court—AND even if someone sincerely believed gun-control is a good thing, it is simply TOTALLY UNREALISTIC given the facts in the United States. Our history as a frontier country, our defeat of hostile tribal peoples... (yes, particularly in the West, that’s what did happen), our heritage in being born from a war, and being reborn from a civil war—all these essentially American things, were dependent on the civil right to own and use firearms.
Gun control simply is not American, it never will be. The more we try gun-control, the more we will disarm the law-abiding citizen, making them the victims of criminals and the criminally insane. But for the right of private citizens to carry—this last murder spree would have been the worst one of all.
The anti-gunnies need to take the blindfolds off, as denial ain’t just a river in Egypt!
Among many other things, those who argue for more gun control are, at the very least intellectually lazy, and serve to enable the criminal’s abdication of morality and personal responsibility.
Numbers mean something the author apparently is missing.
Columbine: how many died IN THE BUILDING before the assailants died? Columbine was “gun-free”
Colorado Springs: how many died IN THE BUILDING before the shooter was brought down? An armed citizen was present.
I’ll let the numbers prove the point.
Preachin’ to the choir, I know, but...This shrill, mamby-pamby, knee jerk liberal garbage simply has to end.
The Second Amendment is not a matter of opinion. It’s clear and concise; and, it is proper.
This left wingnut doesn’t know diddly about firearms, obviously, and likely will choose to remain ignorant.
RKBA was specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights because it demanded restatement. The populace is assured the right to be able to protect themselves (individually and collectively) from not only external (foreign) attack, but also from an overly zealous government (like the one that is developing in Washington), and from the criminal element that surrounds us all.
I’m perfectly fine with this author, and others of like mind NOT having firearms in their homes or on their persons. That’s a choice they make freely. I choose a different path, and I make that choice freely, as well.
As to the issues of these nutjob moonbats diving off the deep end? It seems that there are warning signs in many instances; warning signs that went unheeded.
Parents, stay close to your children. Don’t abrogate your parental responsibilities to the meddling bureaucrats. That will go a long way to addressing this issue.
We likely won’t stop it all, but we’ll stop more than we are at this point.
Of course, there is still the ongoing argument regarding the numbers of dead/wounded/injured by firearms versus automobiles, etc. These arguments deserve a full hearing, as well.
Sure.
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