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A Second Look at Romney
Townhall.com ^ | December 14, 2007 | Mona Charen

Posted on 12/14/2007 5:06:25 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: circumbendibus; fieldmarshaldj

That’s not an endorsement by any means .

Rush spoke favorably of Romney’s “victim speech” as well, but that does not equal an endorsement .


21 posted on 12/14/2007 6:08:46 AM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Your friendly resident drive-by poster , it's for a great cause ! Stop the RINO's - VOTE FRED !)
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To: Kaslin
“By Raphael Lewis and Scott S. Greenberger, Globe Staff | June 4, 2005

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Governor Mitt Romney, under fire for an adviser’s remark that he has been ‘’faking” his support of abortion rights, insisted yesterday that he would not back off his 2002 campaign pledge to uphold Massachusetts abortion laws, saying, ‘’I take my promises very seriously.’”

22 posted on 12/14/2007 6:08:55 AM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: mathluv

[as his understanding and embrace of America’s civic religion. In his telling, that civic religion amounts to a commitment to religious liberty as well as to broadly shared religious values.]

Now actually, this contains a scary thought - that there is a “civic religion”. When one examines this closely, this is really a call for a state religion, the “civic religion” that is too bland, too mediocre, too pureed, to be worth discussion. This would be the religion of politicians like Romney, who are too afraid to run openly on their own religion, so must hush it up behind a veil of bafflegab.

Civic religion, the religion of the polite elite who would rule you, bland and mediocre without substance and heaven forbid there be a lick of moral judgment contained within. Why just about any blackguard nincompoop could run under the banner of that state religion. Ooooops, I guess I’ve just made myself a bigot against the civic religion of the state.


23 posted on 12/14/2007 6:09:28 AM PST by FastCoyote (ABOUT THE RELIGION OF A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
She never mentions Duncan Hunter. People don't talk about Hunter mostly because people don't talk about him. If people started talking about him, maybe people would start talking about him.

Who are you talking about?

24 posted on 12/14/2007 6:13:56 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: circumbendibus
National Review:Romney has President Bush’s virtues

Since when is the pride that you think you can lift yourself up by the bootstraps to become a god, or are already a "god-in-embryo"--since when has that become a "virtue?" (I must have missed that in "character class"...maybe all the schools can start introducing that right away under a Mitt educational plan for our nation)

25 posted on 12/14/2007 6:21:21 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Neu Pragmatist
As I corrected myself, Buchanan didn't exactly endorse Romney but if you look closely, he has been carrying Romney's water after the famous "Faith in America" speech

BTW, Rush had positive comments on Romney's performance in the Iowa debate. "Right on, Right on..." he said while playing Romney's response where he vowed to rid Government of overlapping bureaucracies and other wasteful spending. Rush liked Thompson's remarks, too, but dissed (my interpretation) Huckabee for his Rodney King like (my take on Rush's thoughts) moment where Huckster wanted to bring Conservatives and Liberals together in his administration.

26 posted on 12/14/2007 6:26:15 AM PST by circumbendibus
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To: circumbendibus

Yes, Rush has been hard on the Huckster and with good reason .

I think Buchanan was taken by the speech , but it will be hard to pin Buchanan down to supporting a certain candidate .


27 posted on 12/14/2007 6:31:26 AM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Your friendly resident drive-by poster , it's for a great cause ! Stop the RINO's - VOTE FRED !)
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To: mathluv
'It is difficult to find any significant weakness in Romney.'

No it's not, Mona. You're just not looking hard enough.

Cooper: Governor Romney, you said in 1994 that you looked forward to the day when gays and lesbians could serve, and I quote, "openly and honestly in our nation's military." Do you stand by that?

Romney: This isn't that time. This is not that time. We're in the middle of a war. The people who have...

Cooper: Do you look forward to that time, though, one day?

Romney: I'm going to listen to the people who run the military to see what the circumstances are like. And my view is that, at this stage, this is not the time for us to make that kind of...
28 posted on 12/14/2007 6:34:06 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Colofornian

You’ve always got to start harping about religion when you’re losing the rational argument, don’t you?

Do you even realize how profoundly you are embarrassing yourself?


29 posted on 12/14/2007 6:45:26 AM PST by tantiboh
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To: circumbendibus

-—Sheriff Joe Arpaio - Maricopa County, Arizona:
“I like him,” Arpaio said of Mitt Romney. “He’s a man of principle, of good character. He did a great job in Massachusetts and I feel he’s going to make a great president.” “I’m sure the governor believes in my philosophy too,” Arpaio said. “He sure would not be asking for my endorsement if he didn’t believe in what I’m doing.”-—

That calls for a demonstration!

MITT, MITT, MITT! MITT, MITT, MITT! MITT, MITT, MITT!


30 posted on 12/14/2007 6:50:56 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: Kaslin
For what it's worth to the adamantaly-opposed-to-Romney-crowd, Margaret Thatcher a little over a year ago gave an approving nod to Mitt Romney ( http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/10/15/230126.shtml?s=ic ).

I posted a comment on that thread -- #16 -- and perhaps more on the same thread and haven't changed my mind to date. Of course, I like other candidates, including Tancredo, Thompson, Hunter, and will support ANY Republican candidate over the slime the dems put forth, even McCain whom I personally despise.

My view remains, namely: If we await the PERFECT conservative candidate, the dem socialists will reign for decades. Finally, should anyone already have the irrationally charged slings and arrows pointed at my backside, don't bother. I'm entitled to register an opinion on FR without getting hit that way and won't respond in any case. Debating policy is quite another matter, but we can still offer rational discourse rather than emotional attacks that have become quite prevalent of late.

Regards . . . Penny

31 posted on 12/14/2007 6:50:58 AM PST by Penny
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To: Petronski

yawn. :-)


32 posted on 12/14/2007 6:58:39 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SoFloFreeper
A major part of the reason why Duncan Hunter doesn't get traction is because the media will not talk about him. Mona Charen doesn't mention him. I think this becomes very circular: The media doesn't cover him, because he doesn't have a chance, and he doesn't have a chance largely because the media doesn't cover him.

Mona Charen explicitly asks why are we often stuck with awful choices? Well, Hunter is a man of principle and accomplishment. If you disagree with his positions: Fine. If you think he has no real chance: Fine. But to go hunting for outstanding candidates and not to mention him just seems weird to me.

33 posted on 12/14/2007 7:04:14 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Antoninus
WHen people cut off quotes with "...", sometimes that means they left out the part that refutes their argument.

Here's the next line of that debate question:

Cooper: Is that a change in your position...

Romney: Yes, I didn't think it would work. I didn't think "don't ask/don't tell" would work. That was my -- I didn't think that would work. I thought that was a policy, when I heard about it, I laughed. I said that doesn't make any sense to me.

And you know what? It's been there now for, what, 15 years? It seems to have worked.


34 posted on 12/14/2007 7:07:07 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kaslin
Mitt is exactly the kind of slimy politician I could never support.

His overwhelming lust for power and lack of convictions in favor of political expediency make him a poster boy for what everyone hates about politics.

35 posted on 12/14/2007 7:11:34 AM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
WHen people cut off quotes with "...", sometimes that means they left out the part that refutes their argument.

Yep. But not in this case. The point was that the man's a flip-flopper. What you posted does not refute that in the least.
36 posted on 12/14/2007 7:55:23 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Kaslin
While he is not my favorite candidate, I too find myself warming a bit to Mitt.

I can tell you this, if he is the nominee, I can see myself voting for him, quite easily, as compared to, say, voting for Rudy. And that might be the bottom line.

37 posted on 12/14/2007 7:58:16 AM PST by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
People don't talk about Hunter mostly because people don't talk about him. If people started talking about him, maybe people would start talking about him.

You may have a point, then again, you may not.

38 posted on 12/14/2007 8:02:34 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Petronski
How does Petronski's post at 22 elicit a 'yawn'? This is the crux of 'why not Mitt?'

Governor Mitt Romney, ... insisted yesterday that he would not back off his 2002 campaign pledge to uphold Massachusetts abortion laws, saying, ‘’I take my promises very seriously.’”

Comparing his past to what he promises today, I'm not convinced he takes his promises seriously at all. Here's just a few previous "promises":

“My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.” - Mitt Romney

“In my view, it is not a good idea to go into a [Contract With America] like what was organized by the Republican Party in Washington, laying out a whole series of things which the party said, ‘These are the thing’s we’re going to do.’ I think that’s a mistake.” - Mitt Romney

“Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” - Mitt Romney

“I remember in my earliest political experience my father fighting to keep the John Birch Society from playing too strong a role in the Republican Party. He walked out of the Republican National Convention in 1964, when Barry Goldwater said, ‘Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.’ Because he saw that as a tacit approval of the effort the John Birch Society was making to influence the Republican Party. I think that extremists who would force their views on the party and try to shape the party are making a mistake.” - Mitt Romney

“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won’t chip away at them. I believe they help protect us and provide for our safety.” - Mitt Romney

“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.” - Mitt Romney

“I don’t think [The Brady Bill’s mandated waiting period] will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect.” - Mitt Romney

“I don’t line up with the NRA.” - Mitt Romney

“I’ve been a hunter pretty much all my life.” - Mitt Romney

“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have, since the time when my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, we should sustain and support it. I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice.” - Mitt Romney

“I think it would be a positive thing to have women have the choice of taking morning-after pills….I would favor having it available.” - Mitt Romney

“There will be children born to same-sex couples, and adopted by same-sax couples, and I believe that there should be rights and privileges associated with those unions and with the children that are part of those unions.” - Mitt Romney

“All people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.” - Mitt Romney

39 posted on 12/14/2007 8:07:23 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: circumbendibus
It is difficult to find any significant weakness in Romney. He is refreshingly articulate, exceedingly well prepared and self-disciplined, clearly an excellent manager with both private and government experience, happily married with a large, supportive family, and well within the mainstream of conservatism on every major issue.

Those who take the time to look at his actual record in Massachusetts can see it is quite conservative. The rest, apparently, are content to rely on MSM soundbites and DNC talking points.

In this case, ignorance is not bliss. In case you are still in the dark about MITT.

40 posted on 12/14/2007 8:09:45 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Chuck the Huck - Resist the Rudy -- Unite 4 Mitt --- beat Hillary)
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