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Magma may be melting Greenland ice
MSNBC ^ | 12/13/07

Posted on 12/14/2007 7:56:59 AM PST by Santa Fe_Conservative

SAN FRANCISCO - Global warming may not be the only thing melting Greenland. Scientists have found at least one natural magma hotspot under the Arctic island that could be pitching in.

In recent years, Greenland’s ice has been melting more and flowing faster into the sea — a record amount of ice melted from the frozen mass this summer, according to recently released data — and Earth’s rising temperatures are suspected to be the main culprit.

But clues to a new natural contribution to the melt arose when scientists discovered a thin spot in the Earth’s crust under the northeast corner of the Greenland Ice Sheet where heat from Earth’s insides could seep through, scientists will report here this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union

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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; greenland; magma
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I bet Al Gore is crying right now...
1 posted on 12/14/2007 7:57:00 AM PST by Santa Fe_Conservative
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

How did Bush do this?
He may be greater than we ever thought.


2 posted on 12/14/2007 7:57:53 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Notice there’s no press about the EXPANDING Antartic ice and the cooling trend going on there?


3 posted on 12/14/2007 7:58:40 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
Scientists have found at least one natural magma hotspot under the Arctic island that could be pitching in.


God forbid they go out on a limb if it debunks GW.
4 posted on 12/14/2007 8:00:20 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: stylin19a

I still don’t buy that if it all melted the seas would rise... some goes into the ground.. some into the air, some into the sea..

even if it did, continents always shift.. coastlines change. big deal.


5 posted on 12/14/2007 8:05:10 AM PST by RolandBurnam (BAN TASERS NOW!!)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Land of the Blue Lagoon? Home to many of the world’s geothermal energy plants? Nope, didn’t see this article coming...


6 posted on 12/14/2007 8:07:41 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: July 4th

You are thinking of Iceland.


7 posted on 12/14/2007 8:10:02 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

You mean there are actually still NATURAL geologic, oceonographic and meteorologic events occurring on the planet?

Who’d uv thunk it?


8 posted on 12/14/2007 8:10:16 AM PST by WayneS (Follow the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
In recent years, Greenland’s ice has been melting more and flowing faster into the sea — a record amount of ice melted from the frozen mass this summer, according to recently released data — and Earth’s rising temperatures are suspected to be the main culprit.

But clues to a new natural contribution to the melt arose when scientists discovered a thin spot in the Earth’s crust under the northeast corner of the Greenland Ice Sheet where heat from Earth's insides could seep through, scientists will report here this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

“The behavior of the great ice sheets is an important barometer of global climate change,” said lead scientist Ralph von Frese of Ohio State University. “However, to effectively separate and quantify human impacts on climate change, we must understand the natural impacts too.”

Ralph, be careful, you are about 5 seconds from being thrown under the bus by the Global Warming Crowd!

9 posted on 12/14/2007 8:10:45 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: Truth29

You’re right. I completely glossed over the title of the article. Regardless, it’s the same magma.


10 posted on 12/14/2007 8:11:35 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

"Is it red HOT mag..ma?

11 posted on 12/14/2007 8:12:00 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Save the polar bears! Don’t club baby seals!


12 posted on 12/14/2007 8:12:20 AM PST by wastedyears (Duncan Hunter is like a cheeseburger and fries. Simple presentation with no frills.)
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I wish he would go up there and check it out. Then not come back.


13 posted on 12/14/2007 8:12:29 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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First for words still tells the story of what these wing-nuts really think is to blame.


14 posted on 12/14/2007 8:15:52 AM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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I’ll bet Al is pretty happy about this, ‘cause it points out that his thoughts on Greenland are on a magma cum laude level!

OK, OK. I’ll keep my day job.


15 posted on 12/14/2007 8:16:23 AM PST by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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Since the manmade-global-warming debate began, I’ve contended that we don’t know enough about magma hotspots (especially under the oceans) and possible magma shifts to rule magma out as one of the top two (sun=#1) causes of surface-level temperature changes.

Glad to see the idea receiving further attention.

16 posted on 12/14/2007 8:20:17 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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“Magma may be melting Greenland ice “

This can’t be.
Everyone knows you can’t have volcanoes and icefields in the same country!
(/sarc!)
(And of course, Iceland is just one counter-example)


17 posted on 12/14/2007 8:24:56 AM PST by VOA
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To: RolandBurnam
Also, ice that is in the water does not add to the water level when it melts. Put a few ice cubes in a glass and fill it with water. As the ice melts, the water does not overflow the rim. If anything, the level will decrease as the air trapped in the ice is released into the atmosphere, thus reducing the volume.

The main point is that in most places where “the scientists” inform the public that ice is decreasing (Antarctica, Greenland) they are intentionally leaving out the fact that the ice may be reducing on one part of the continent (the western slope of Antarctica, e.g.), but it is increasing on other parts (the eastern slope of Antarctica, e.g.). The last I checked, there was a net gain in ice coverage in Antarctica. I’d have to recheck that to make sure it is still accurate. There was also substantial ice gains on other parts of Greenland.

This is the type of deceptive misinformation Leftist scientists employ and that Bjorn Lomberg has done such an excellent job in revealing (in the Skeptical Environmentalist), and for which he has been demonized and ostracized by the scientific Left.

18 posted on 12/14/2007 8:27:30 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

btt


19 posted on 12/14/2007 8:30:59 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: July 4th

http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/?cat_id=16539&ew_0_a_id=296006


20 posted on 12/14/2007 8:33:28 AM PST by Truth29
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