IS IT THE END?
Posted on 12/14/2007 8:39:00 AM PST by Chuck54
CC27 still unavailable and I'm stand-in "Pinger".
Welcome all. CC27 should return soon.
Hello faithful.
Present and accounted for.
Greetings from the N Georgia Mountain.
I’ll be in and out but should be in more than out.
Thanks to all the heavy hitters yesterday. You kept a great thread moving right along.
I’ll be more out than in, but thanks to those who can actually stay and post in my (humble)place.
bttt
Hello UvnN.
:)
It’s TONY on WABC.
Hey, Tony, hi. Miss you
Foxnews | 12/14/07 | AP
WASHINGTON — The House of Representatives has approved an intelligence bill that would prohibit the Central Intelligence Agency from using waterboarding, mock executions and other harsh interrogation methods.
The 222-199 vote Thursday sent the measure to the Senate, which still must act before it can go to President George W. Bush. The White House has threatened a veto.
The bill, a House-Senate compromise to authorize intelligence operations in 2008, also blocks spending 70 percent of the intelligence budget until the House and Senate intelligence committees are briefed on Israel's Sept. 6 air strike on an alleged nuclear site in Syria.
AP | Friday, December 14, 2007; A07
Interrogation practices prohibited in the House bill, which would apply Army Field Manual restrictions to the CIA:
-Forcing detainees to be naked, perform sexual acts or pose in a sexual manner.
-Placing hoods or sacks over detainees' heads or duct tape over their eyes.
-Beating, shocking or burning detainees.
-Threatening detainees with military dogs.
-Exposing detainees to extreme heat or cold.
-Conducting mock executions.
-Depriving detainees of food, water or medical care.
-Waterboarding.
A real Whopper from the New York Times
Ed Lasky | American Thinker | December 14, 2007
Today's New York Time runs an editorial that defies belief and makes clear that the paper lives in a different moral universe where it remains blind to its own flaws. In "Notes from the Global War in Terror" the paper condemns President Bush for:
"the damage President Bush has done to America’s intelligence-gathering capabilities in the name of fighting terrorism."
This comes from the paper that has led the way in eviscerating our intelligence capabilities to thwart terror. The paper has disclosed a secret program (the "SWIFT" program) to monitor financial transactions that may be used to fund terror (the Israelis have credited this program with preventing suicide attacks). Then, two of its "ace" reporters tipped off groups that they were being investigated by the FBI and that raids were imminent (allowing these groups to destroy evidence). The prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald of Valerie Plame fame-directly blamed these two reporters for severely damaging his case. The failed prosecution was because Fitzgerald believed the reporters tipped off a Chicago-based group that it was being investigated by the FBI.
They have opposed techniques designed to elicit information regarding terror attacks-which it has labeled "torture" ("waterboarding" - one of the techniques condemned by the Times - has been used exactly THREE times and will unlikely ever to be used again despite evidence that it led to valuable information); disclosed and opposed the monitoring of electronic communication between foreign sources and US-based terror suspects; opposed the worldwide Echelon system-a very sophisticated network designed to sift the airwaves for evdience that might lead to the prevention of terrror attacks, though it supported the same program under the Clinton Administration; has opposed the expansion of the ability to use warrants to discover terror ties and prevent attacks; has disclosed methods used in interrogations that will help prepare terror suspects from resisting them in the future.
Should I go on? They supported Florida Professor Sami-Al Arian from accusations that he funneled funds to terror groups (a charge he pled guilty to with no apology from the New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristoff for his never-ending support for Al-Arian); has advocated for the "legal rights' of terrorists imprisoned in Guantanomo Bay and has called for the closing of that prison despite its immense value in the war on terror; disclosed the rarely used but potentially vital practice of rendition where terror suspects are captured and sent to other nations for interrogation. They even dislcosed the charter air companies and schedules for these transfers of prisoners.
And the list can be easly extended and probably will be as the Bush Administration comes to a close and officials leak information to the paper for partisan purposes and to burnish their own reputations as a presumably Democratic Presidency takes office.
The Times has been in the forefront of disclosing the means and methods used to investigate terrorists. The paper is a conduit for those in the intelligence community to "leak" sensitive information that has ahd the effect of harming our ability to investigate terror groups. The paper is blind (or worse apathetic) to the damage it has caused to America's ability to investigate terror groups. The level of hypocrisy and gall that it shows in today's paper for condemning the Bush Administration for damagaing our nations's intelligence gathering capabilities is simply astounding.
Morning Darling. Thanks for the ping Chuck.
Something to read during the commercials.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1939494/posts
Open line bump.
Breitbart.com | December 13, 2007 | By CHARLES BABINGTON
WASHINGTON (AP) - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi lashed out at Republicans on Thursday, saying they want the Iraq war to drag on and are ignoring the public's priorities. "They like this war. They want this war to continue," Pelosi, D- Calif., told reporters. She expressed frustration over Republicans' ability to force majority Democrats to yield ground on taxes, spending, energy, war spending and other matters.
"We thought that they shared the view of so many people in our country that we needed a new direction in Iraq," Pelosi said at her weekly news conference in the Capitol. "But the Republicans have made it very clear that this is not just George Bush's war. This is the war of the Republicans in Congress."
Asked to clarify her remarks, Pelosi backed off a bit.
"I shouldn't say they like the war," she said. "They support the war, the course of action that the president is on."
"And that was a revelation to me," she said, "because I thought the American people's voices were so—and still are—so strong in this regard."
Pelosi, who opposed the U.S.-led invasion from the start, said the war was "a catastrophic mistake."
Hi, Chuck. Thanks for your faithfulness with this thread.
Nice to see the Dems and Hildebeast imploding. Now we must be even more diligent!! We must go for their throats!
“Till I see the house fall on her and the body in the casket, she’s not dead.”
Love the “Wicked Witch” imagery from the Wizard of Oz.
Rush doesn’t believe the Hillary is doomed hype.
Good day, McGruff.
I couldn’t access the internet for most of yesterday (algore must be mad at me). I was listening to Rush on the radio and they went to the baseball mess so I missed the last hour of the show :(
It does no good for the Dims to implode if we nominate Rudy or Huckabee and implode with them.
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