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Dozens of Employees Walk Away From Electrolux
News Channel 5, Nashville, TN ^ | 12-16-07 | Staff

Posted on 12/16/2007 5:30:01 AM PST by engrpat

Dozens of Employees Walk Away From Electrolux

NewsChannel 5 looked into whether the plant employed illegal immigrants. Sources told NewsChannel 5 more than 100 workers have been let go in the past couple of days. The employees said it was complete chaos. According to a NewsChannel 5 source, so many workers have been let go that it has been hard to do their jobs at the Electrolux plant.

Second and Third shifts have been hit the hardest, and they believe the company is taking action to fix a problem that should not have happened in the first place. Diane Casey has lived across the street from the Electrolux plant for years. In that time she has had a front row seat of who comes in and out of the plant, but Friday was different from the rest. It was an observation shared by many during the plants' shift change around 1:00 Friday afternoon.

According to a NewsChannel5 source, Electrolux let go 120 employees Thursday and 52 on Friday.

"They were calling your supervisor, calling names to go to HR, taking them to HR and from there walking them out the door. Something about their ID's or Social Security numbers weren't matching," said an anonymous employee. Electrolux released the following statement: "Electrolux does not tolerate or condone the use of false documentation in attempting to establish work eligibility. Every new hire undergoes two verifications of employment eligibility. In light of the recent news stories, we are conducting a review of employment eligibility documentation. The company's policy regarding the presentation of false identity or work authorization documents is termination of employment." "After our last break on the lines it just went berserk," said the employee.

A phone call during second shift Thursday night prompted many employees to walk out.

"Somebody had called in saying INS was going to be there to pick them up when they walked out the door, so they voluntarily walked out themselves," said the employee. The situation could hurt Electrolux's production. Electrolux wouldn't confirm or deny the number of workers that have been let go in recent days or why. The immigration and customs enforcement department, better known as "ICE," is looking into illegal document vendors in the Springfield area.

Earlier this week, federal Agents arrested two people, and charged them with making and selling fake IDs in Robertson County.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; electrolux; goodnews; identitytheft; idtheft; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; sanctuary; tennessee
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To: engrpat
"Electrolux does not tolerate or condone the use of false documentation in attempting to establish work eligibility. Every new hire undergoes two verifications of employment eligibility. In light of the recent news stories, we are conducting a review of employment eligibility documentation. The company's policy regarding the presentation of false identity or work authorization documents is termination of employment."

The big problem is with the I-9 Form. Employers are required to have all new hires complete the form and provide forms of ID listed on the I-9 that establish both identity and the eligibility to work in the US. As a former Payroll and HR manager, I’m quite familiar with this.

If anyone is really bored this morning and likes reading instructions for completing government forms:

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cgpc/cpm/eod/i9.pdf

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Pt0DxDzp2e8J:www.osha.gov/pls/epub/wageindex.download%3Fp_file%3DF6844/I9_Handbook.pdf+I-9&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=16&gl=us

The I-9 only requires that employers have the employee complete the form and sign it. The employer is supposed to “look” at the required documentation and if they “appear” legitimate on their “face”, then the employer must accept them and sign off because to do otherwise could be construed as discrimination. Note the instructions have all sorts of warnings about what constitutes discrimination. The I-9 form is not submitted to any government agency for validation, but is only to be “retained” by the employer for possible inspection by the Gov at a later date but there is no real requirement for employers to confirm the legitimacy of the documents as long as they “appear” legitimate. Employers are not even required to photocopy the documents – although I always did – CYA.

In other words if a new hire gives me the required documentation and the forms of ID specified on the form and those ID’s “look legit” and match the name of and picture ID of the person then I have to accept them even if I have a gut feeling that something isn’t right. I am not responsible for doing anything further and if I conduct further research like background checks on some people, then I have to do it for everyone otherwise the company can be sued for discrimination.

Note also that the I-9 is also available in Spanish.

Of course if I knowingly accept forged documentation or assist the employee with providing false documentation then I and my company can be held criminally responsible. But I’m not a forgery expert nor am I required to be one.

IMHO, this puts some employers in a very grey area and between a rock and a hard place and a no win situation.

Big Brother pays lip service to the idea of preventing illegals from working but they don’t take any responsibility for preventing it and put the owness on employers to do their job for them.
61 posted on 12/16/2007 7:21:49 AM PST by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: no-to-illegals
The politicians have agreed to help bring America down to third world status. Whom the politicians have brokered a deal with is anyone's guess.

That's an easier one. Many are likely backing the New World Order, if not because they personally believe it should happen, they have been bought with silver pieces.

These silver pieces by the way, have an uncanny resemblance to those given to Judas.

62 posted on 12/16/2007 7:27:04 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Caramelgal
Big Brother pays lip service to the idea of preventing illegals from working but they don’t take any responsibility for preventing it and put the owness on employers to do their job for them.

Then the illegals are fired and then rehired as soon as more phony documents are presented. Another 90 days comes into play before Big Brother says, more illegals, fire them. The law places Americans in a vicious cycle, not easily corrected, unless the full force of the law is put into play. The full force, of the law, will never happen with the current political climate. Look forward to amnesty. For if the politicians can get away with it, they will do it.

63 posted on 12/16/2007 7:27:45 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: bert
No, that’s why I’m curious about who does.

Had to go out for a little while will post you the companies name after I look it up.

64 posted on 12/16/2007 7:28:20 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Haddit; engrpat
Great News!

Oh yeah! Great news! Electrolux now enters the period where they can make some important choices in the current 4.9% unemployment environment.

They don't need to even replace these illegals. They can just cut third and/or second shift and reduce production to 1/2 or 1/3.

They can offset that by doubling, or more their prices. Target and retailers will tell them to get lost, but hey!

So if they want to keep the price low...well...they can open new production in Mexico where these folks went anywy. Or china with lead paint!

Illegal immigration is a product of the wages and volumes required to satiate the weekend American shopper. Period. If the consumer isn't willing, really willing, to pay more for the same product or worse, then companies are either going to do that with the cheap illegal labor, or they will do it with cheap, legal, offshore labor.

The market is working. It's the DEMAND that's causing the china and illegal problems. What we really need is the ability to BUST CONSUMERS for buying illegal content, or products from international sweatshops! See how that goes.

65 posted on 12/16/2007 7:29:53 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Thermalseeker
I'd say the number is probably 4 times that, maybe higher.....

True, and a lot of then are not latino!

66 posted on 12/16/2007 7:30:47 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: nicmarlo
These silver pieces by the way, have an uncanny resemblance to those given to Judas.

yep, the current crop of politicians (well most of them) believe Americans cannot stop them from doing their duty for a foreign nation, or foreign nations.

67 posted on 12/16/2007 7:31:24 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Not necessarily Electrolux, but for other industries there, like poultry and battery making and the like...

Every one of the Mexican restaurants are full of illegals, don't go to any of them anymore, but they normally have a house rented that they keep all of their help in.

68 posted on 12/16/2007 7:33:39 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yep. Red China will be marching up through the heart of our nation...right on the red carpet our politicians have laid out before them; it’s called the NASCO Corridor.


69 posted on 12/16/2007 7:34:12 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Electrolux should have never hired these illegals in the first place, so a pox on them...!

Two things

  1. They usually have very authentic looking forged documentation
  2. And they would have gotten hit with a civil rights lawsuit under EEOC guidelines if they "discriminated" against Hispanics
It's easy to say it's the corporations fault, but with the threat of lawsuits hanginong overt their head if the DON'T hire them they're really in a bind.
70 posted on 12/16/2007 7:34:13 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: from occupied ga; Virginia Ridgerunner; no-to-illegals

It comes back to the federal government (as well as this, and all other presidential administrations’ policies):

The take 90 days, minimum, to process paperwork sent to it by the employers. That is ridiculous. In an instant world, the government COULD do this within days....if it wanted to. It would have to hire more workers, but if the goal is to STOP illegals from being hired, then that’s where you put your money (they could easily STOP funding wasteful “research” projects and/or “art” projects).

All throughout the 90-day period, as the illegal is illegally working, the employer has NOTHING it can do but wait to hear back from the government. (Unless, of course, the employer learns about information concerning its employee that a “reasonable person” could conclude raises questions. One example might be that an employer KNOWS that illegals usually seek work in their type of business...(I actually have specific words from a judicial decree concerning that type of “employer knowledge”).

Absent this kind of additional information, as the employer waits to hear back, the illegal may decide, prior to the end of the 90-day + period to look for another job.

Then the shell game begins all over again.

This is all a GOVERNMENT SCAM and it encourages employers to hire illegals.


71 posted on 12/16/2007 7:41:53 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: from occupied ga; Virginia Ridgerunner; no-to-illegals
p.s. Traitorous employers are aware of this government scam and use it to their own advantage. And, if possible, they find other loopholes to allow them not to hire Americans and, instead, hire illegals. For example, you may be interested in this video:

Video | Lou Dobbs: Law Firm teaches how to avoid hiring Americans

72 posted on 12/16/2007 7:45:51 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: engrpat
Why does the Government allow illegals to work?
Why is there no use or slow use of SS# databases to weed out the illegals?
Here's one answer from a Washington Times report dated March 29,2007

In 2004, "uncredited earnings" -- Social Security tax payments that can't be matched to valid Social Security numbers -- totaled $65 billion -- about 10 percent of the program's total income.

Uncredited contributions to Social Security grew by nearly $300 billion from 2000 to 2004, a giant increase attributable mostly to illegal aliens using erroneous Social Security numbers, and one seniors group said this will become a major liability if those aliens are legalized....

An illegal gets a job, using phony papers. The Co. fires him/her 3 months later.
The worker has paid into the SS system and SS has no obligation to produce benefits. A win-win .
Of course the Dims are pushing to change that, The benefits part.

73 posted on 12/16/2007 7:46:30 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: engrpat
coming out of the shadows...
74 posted on 12/16/2007 7:49:25 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: bcsco
Exactly, if there were a bounty on illegals, they'd be leaving voluntarily. People should be spreading the word to the illegals they need to go back to where they came from voluntarily or once they get arrested.

Would be great if there were threats to call INS to restaurants across the US.

75 posted on 12/16/2007 7:54:23 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL. Electrolux sux.


76 posted on 12/16/2007 7:55:06 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: ontap

Actually, what was ‘priceless’ was the background images. The reporter in the foreground saying ‘None speak English’ and the background filled with Hispanic faces.


77 posted on 12/16/2007 7:55:50 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: Haddit

Yes. Last week’s story clearly showed Electrolux knew they were hiring illegals. Now they are trying to save face.


78 posted on 12/16/2007 7:56:47 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: PeteB570

No Pete, search FR for other Electrolux stories, they knew what they were doing but are now trying to cover up their misdeeds.


79 posted on 12/16/2007 7:57:49 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Haddit

(Heavy on the sarcasm)
So, I guess all those INS visits, the new laws that punish violating companies with ‘hefty’ fines or close them, that the Bush Administration has put into place, really don’t work.

Now, the WALL, that would work. Yeah, well.... except for all those tunnels. Geez. Who’da thought you could dig underground. I mean, next thing they’ll try and tell me is that fire can melt metal.
(/sarc)


80 posted on 12/16/2007 7:57:55 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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