[blam]

Caral may have the oldest pyramids in the world.

Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders

[blam]

GGG Ping.

Many pictures here

[federal]

bookmark

[ARE SOLE]

Thanks blam, good stuff as usual!

Regards

[econjack]

why did humans become civili[z]ed?

Sometimes I think we're still waiting...

[Sherman Logan]

Caral is more than 1,000 years older than Machu Picchu of the Incas.

True enough. Actually about 4,000 years, but who's counting millenia?

[IronJack]

Sounds to me like someone is jumping to some pretty wild conclusions based on sketchy evidence. Unless the wealth of this elusive "city" was evenly distributed, there would be those who coveted the belongings of others, and who tried to take them by force. Either they were resisted by force -- and showed the signs of it -- or their victims were laid low -- and would show the signs of it. If the wealth WERE shared equally among all the citizens, then the signs of force would come from the government, as it strove to undo the inequities nature created.

The very absence of any violent indicators makes this whole edenic premise suspect. Violence and war are an inescapable reality of human nature.

[Sherman Logan]

Caral was a gentle society, built on trade and pleasure.

This meme has been announced many times, from the Polynesians to the Maya to the Anasazi. Every time, as knowledge of the ancient people grows, it is found that they were as bloody-minded as anybody else.

Might even be true this time, but that's not the smart way to bet.

Leftists have an insatiable urge to believe in a primeval Garden of Eden, from which we fell only by the Original Sin of our ancestors, the development of private property. Usually white male ancestors.

Since we fell from a state of peace, harmony and equality, we can return to it if we just assign all power to the Annointed.

[Eternal_Bear]

How old are the Chinese pyramids? No one seems to have dated them yet.

[Publius6961]

And, despite the hard evidence backing her, she is still trying to convince people that Caral was indeed the oldest known urban civilisation in the world.

I admire and respect Ruth Shady for her lifetime of dedication and work, but my usual skepticism persists:

The search for the definitive history of civilized man will never end. There are too many unknowns. Many people don't realize that dinosaurs were not "known" until the 19th century.

What about the shoreline civilizations which are now under 300 of seas? How many might have disappeared permanently into subduction zones?

I do plan to read more about this lady's work. Sounds fascinating.

[Cacique]

btt

[Rudder]

...why did humans become civilised?

Science doesn't ask or answer 'why' questions.

[MHGinTN]

Oh my, another book to add to my purchase list! Thanks for calling attention to this book By Schoch.

[knuthom]

Caral was born in trade and not bloodshed. Warfare came much later. This is what this mother city shows: great civilisations are born in peace. Ruth Shady continues to battle for this great truth.

This woman has an agenda. I wouldn't expect her to recognize the truth.

[Coyoteman]

Good post. Thanks!

[SunkenCiv]

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[Heatseeker]

Am I missing something? Jericho was PPNA (early Neolithic) at least - 8000 BC or so.

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