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Boycotted Radio Host Remains Unbowed [Savage!!!!!!!!!!]
The New York Times ^ | Dec 17 2007 | Jacques Steinberg

Posted on 12/16/2007 8:45:41 PM PST by camerakid400

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To: camerakid400
far more checkered track record

This from the NYT, of all things!

41 posted on 12/17/2007 5:33:00 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: zeppenwolf
"IMHO, Michael Savage is a twit when considered on the whole."

I agree. I also applaud him for not backing down and recommend that Freepers let Citrix and others know our feelings.

Advertizers are free to choose whomever they wish to support, however, if they kowtow to CAIR where does it end.

42 posted on 12/17/2007 5:35:02 AM PST by Pietro
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To: camerakid400

Why would anyone pay attention to an organization (CAIR) with only 1700 members?


43 posted on 12/17/2007 5:36:56 AM PST by sono (Hillary's Campaign Theme Song? Donovan, "Season of The Witch")
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To: VictoryGal
3. Nobody can mix Plato, politics, dog stories, and rock and roll like he can.

VG,

You forgot talk about Italian and Chinese food! Not to mention meatball recipes. I have a deceased uncle, G_d rest his soul, that while intellectually both men were not on the same plane, there is a similarity that reminds me of him and has me continue as A listener.

Notice every once and a while a caller calls him "Uncle Mike".

Every family has a character that calls them like they see it with a street wise bent.

That is our "Mike".

44 posted on 12/17/2007 5:41:27 AM PST by taildragger
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To: camerakid400

The article turned out about as good as can be expected.


45 posted on 12/17/2007 6:48:14 AM PST by period end of story (You need cooling, baby I'm not fooling)
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To: sono
CAIR is using this as its weapon to convince advertisers to bail out of his show.
46 posted on 12/17/2007 6:52:34 AM PST by period end of story (You need cooling, baby I'm not fooling)
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To: period end of story

Savage aka Weiner should use CAIR’s meager membership numbers with his advertisers to buck up their resolve.


47 posted on 12/17/2007 7:00:18 AM PST by sono (Hillary's Campaign Theme Song? Donovan, "Season of The Witch")
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To: camerakid400

Savage Idiocy

The following was Posted by AJStrata on Monday, December 17th, 2007 at 8:35 am. at
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4807

Folks know I am moderate on many issue - which simply means I fiercely believe progress beats lip service. I am not queasy or undecided or shy. I just don’t support the anger and hate of others as policy. This desire not to be a lick-spittle, raving lunatic when discussing complex and challenging issues has kept me from joining one of the two parties because of a few in each party out there on the fringes who I wish not to be associated with in any sense. Personally I think the party the ditches their rabid fringe and entices the middle can hold sway over this country for a long time. Primarily because reasoned and well thought out policies succeed where those built on emotional outbursts usually fail.

One such person who I cannot stand is Michael Savage. He is a cartoon bully who dresses like a bad ass and talks like a bad ass, but I would wager is just an actor out to make money. To understand what a dolt Savage is one just needs to look what he would do to the Muslim Awakening rising in Iraq and now dedicated to the eradication of al-Qaeda. We finally see every day Muslims rising up against al-Qaeda and denying them sanctuary, an event that could hasten the end of the war on terrorism and therefore save lots of lives. In the wake of the good news from Iraq, this idiot Savage goes on a rampage against the very Muslims we need on our side right now:

Then, a few weeks ago, Mr. Savage uncorked a cascade of invective about Islam. Among his on-air comments: the Koran is “a book of hate”; some Muslims, at least, “need deportation”; and adherents of Islam would do well to “take your religion and shove it up your behind” because “I’m sick of you.”

Savage deserves to be thrown off the air - he is risking lives by venting his ugly insecurity about Muslims. We have a chance to end bloodshed and this jerk wants to bring everything back to a boil so there will be more killings and bombs and carnage. While Pelosi was dead wrong when she said Republicans enjoyed war, Savage actually falls into that description. This chest-thumping fool is not going to be the one out there on the front lines in the Middle East. He probably won’t be the victim of an attack here in the US either. So he can ignite hate and violence without little concern he will get hurt.

But those who do have loved ones in harms way should tell this buffoon to just shut up. It is their family members who will be the first to feel a rise of hate against Americans because of idiots like Savage. The guy is playing the perfect foil for Bin Laden, who can now use Savage tapes to incite another generation of suicide bombers. As long as the GOP embraces fools like this I will remain outside the party - with pride.


48 posted on 12/17/2007 8:14:22 AM PST by VA Voter
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To: camerakid400

I generally don’t like Savage even though some of the things he says are in line with what I believe. He has the right to say whatever he basically wants short of calling for murder or harm to person and property. This is further intolerance from the Left.


49 posted on 12/17/2007 8:46:13 AM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: shadowcat
Good for you Citrix and Trusted ID. Michael Savage's real name is Michael Weiner.

Savage donated money to ultra liberal pro-illegal, Democrat Jerry Brown.

Savage is a liberal/communist and his years long campaign where Savage relentlessly bashed Bush and Republicans helped elect the Democrat/socialist Congress we have now.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2Y5ZjE1MWEwYWUyOTUzNTI4ZmY3YzgwMWQ5ZDA4YTU=

Savaged
A radio-talk-show host pulls a fast one on fans?

By David Klinghoffer

Consider the case of Michael Savage, right-wing radio guy, and the not trivial effect he could have on the upcoming election. What’s curious about him is the tantalizing possibility — now with a smoking gun — that his three-hour daily show is an act, a put-on.

The San Francisco-based commentator with the honking Bronx accent reviles President Bush, supposedly from conservative principles, in characteristic way-over-the-top fashion.

The other day he was blasting the administration’s conduct of the Iraq war: “We need Patton, but instead we’ve got patent leather shoes from Yale.” Savage mused that “some [conservatives] are saying it would be healthy for the Republicans to lose” the election. “I’m not sure I agree with that,” he allowed, but permitted his listeners to draw their own conclusions and vote (or not vote)

nteresting that he should mention money — which brings us to the smoking gun. Supporting a candidate out of your own wallet may be the most accurate gauge of what a donor believes in his heart. So it should come as a shock to fans to learn where their hero distributes his own political gifts. Which are not ungenerous. Just ask Jerry Brown, the decidedly liberal candidate (pro-abortion, pro-gun control, etc.) for California attorney general.

As the San Francisco Chronicle reports, Savage is a top contributor to Brown’s campaign against conservative state senator Chuck Poochigian. His gift of $5,600, the maximum allowable under state law, was merited, Savage told the Chronicle after being outed. Why? Because “You have to make choices in an imperfect world.”

Undoubtedly so, but that’s hardly the red-faced extremist talking that Savage plays on the radio. So what explains the generosity?

There is much about him that would suggest, not an ideologue at all, but simply a performer. Then again, sometimes you get the feeling that a refugee from Air America (the failed experiment in liberal talk radio) has been writing scripts for him based on a lefty’s cartoon mental picture of a ranting right-wing caveman.

A performer doesn’t have to care about the consistency or credibility of his message. When Savage is not hinting that it might be a positive development to see Republicans booted out of Congress, he’s (really showing his true feelings)

But what liberal’s imagining of a conservative demagogue would be complete without the invocation of a pipeline direct to Heaven? So Savages supplies it. Over the summer, in a parody of religious faith, he described his working relationship with the Almighty: “I’m a vehicle for God. Don’t you understand that? I’m not saying that I’m a prophet. Not at all. I’m simply a vehicle for God, I’m speaking to you the way he would speak to you if He could come down and speak to you. And he would say to you the very same things that I am saying to you. Because not only is God a conservative, God is a very, very far right conservative.”

This is the same Michael Savage — actually his legal name is Michael Alan Weiner — of whom his old Beat poet Sixties pal Lawrence Ferlinghetti recalled that back in the day he was “always looking to make a fast buck,” “always trying to think up new schemes to get famous.” In his colorful Sixties period, Weiner studied herbal remedies and hung around with Allen Ginsberg.

Today, in a worst-case scenario he could be Lonesome Rhodes in the 1957 Elia Kazan film A Face in the Crowd, a pathologically insincere TV host who plays up his good-ol’-boy cracker-barrel persona but is caught off guard at the end of a broadcast, his voice carried live, revealing what he really feels about his adoring fans: “You know what the public’s like, a cage full of guinea pigs. Good night, you stupid idiots. Good night, you miserable slobs.”


50 posted on 12/17/2007 8:50:37 AM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: rurgan

That article was a hit job on Savage, he is not a communist or a liberal. He said on his show that it was a mistake to donate to Brown, he did it because Brown was working on a military program for schools. Savage supported Bush in 2000, he hased raised 300,000 dollars to the haditha marines, and he pushed very hard to defeat the amnesty bill.

Why don’t you actually listen to a week of his shows and see what he has to say instead of reading what some hack writer thinks?

By the way, you are supporting CAIR by wishing Savage to fail. Once they take down Savage, Rush, O’reilly, Boortz, Hannity, etc will be CAIR’s next target.


51 posted on 12/17/2007 9:12:40 AM PST by camerakid400
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To: montag813; bluefish; All
I will contact Citrix and Trusted ID and thank them for dropping Michael Savage (Michael Weiner). Boycott all of this liberal cretin's advertisers.

Michael Savage's real name is Michael Weiner and he is just a liberal and an actor.

Savage donated money to ultra liberal pro-illegal, Democrat Jerry Brown.

Savage is a liberal/communist and his years long campaign where Savage relentlessly bashed Bush and Republicans helped elect the Democrat/socialist Congress we have now.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2Y5ZjE1MWEwYWUyOTUzNTI4ZmY3YzgwMWQ5ZDA4YTU=

Savaged
A radio-talk-show host pulls a fast one on fans?

By David Klinghoffer

Consider the case of Michael Savage, right-wing radio guy, and the not trivial effect he could have on the upcoming election. What’s curious about him is the tantalizing possibility — now with a smoking gun — that his three-hour daily show is an act, a put-on.

The San Francisco-based commentator with the honking Bronx accent reviles President Bush, supposedly from conservative principles, in characteristic way-over-the-top fashion.

The other day he was blasting the administration’s conduct of the Iraq war: “We need Patton, but instead we’ve got patent leather shoes from Yale.” Savage mused that “some [conservatives] are saying it would be healthy for the Republicans to lose” the election. “I’m not sure I agree with that,” he allowed, but permitted his listeners to draw their own conclusions and vote (or not vote)

nteresting that he should mention money — which brings us to the smoking gun. Supporting a candidate out of your own wallet may be the most accurate gauge of what a donor believes in his heart. So it should come as a shock to fans to learn where their hero distributes his own political gifts. Which are not ungenerous. Just ask Jerry Brown, the decidedly liberal candidate (pro-abortion, pro-gun control, etc.) for California attorney general.

As the San Francisco Chronicle reports, Savage is a top contributor to Brown’s campaign against conservative state senator Chuck Poochigian. His gift of $5,600, the maximum allowable under state law, was merited, Savage told the Chronicle after being outed. Why? Because “You have to make choices in an imperfect world.”

Undoubtedly so, but that’s hardly the red-faced extremist talking that Savage plays on the radio. So what explains the generosity?

There is much about him that would suggest, not an ideologue at all, but simply a performer. Then again, sometimes you get the feeling that a refugee from Air America (the failed experiment in liberal talk radio) has been writing scripts for him based on a lefty’s cartoon mental picture of a ranting right-wing caveman.

A performer doesn’t have to care about the consistency or credibility of his message. When Savage is not hinting that it might be a positive development to see Republicans booted out of Congress, he’s (really showing his true feelings)

But what liberal’s imagining of a conservative demagogue would be complete without the invocation of a pipeline direct to Heaven? So Savages supplies it. Over the summer, in a parody of religious faith, he described his working relationship with the Almighty: “I’m a vehicle for God. Don’t you understand that? I’m not saying that I’m a prophet. Not at all. I’m simply a vehicle for God, I’m speaking to you the way he would speak to you if He could come down and speak to you. And he would say to you the very same things that I am saying to you. Because not only is God a conservative, God is a very, very far right conservative.”

This is the same Michael Savage — actually his legal name is Michael Alan Weiner — of whom his old Beat poet Sixties pal Lawrence Ferlinghetti recalled that back in the day he was “always looking to make a fast buck,” “always trying to think up new schemes to get famous.” In his colorful Sixties period, Weiner studied herbal remedies and hung around with Allen Ginsberg.

Today, in a worst-case scenario he could be Lonesome Rhodes in the 1957 Elia Kazan film A Face in the Crowd, a pathologically insincere TV host who plays up his good-ol’-boy cracker-barrel persona but is caught off guard at the end of a broadcast, his voice carried live, revealing what he really feels about his adoring fans: “You know what the public’s like, a cage full of guinea pigs. Good night, you stupid idiots. Good night, you miserable slobs


52 posted on 12/17/2007 9:12:42 AM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: camerakid400

I like the Savage show because he doesn’t put up with the inane, pointless callers that ruin the Hannity show. He just yells at them and hangs up. Plus, I like it when he gets mad and blows a gasket. He’s like the Happy Gilmore of talk radio.


53 posted on 12/17/2007 9:15:34 AM PST by mysterio
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To: camerakid400

I did listen to Wiener’s/Savage’s show. It is an act. Savage has been a life-long leftist and has all his life looking to be famous and make a quick buck. So is it illogical to assume that Weiner created Savage to make a buck and become famous.He saw what a sucess Rush was and this was his model.

This liberal is laughing at all of us conservatives but even laughing more at his audience who believe his act. I’ve even heard him put down Americans and his audience. He is laughing at his supporters who are making him rich and he thinks they are idiots for falling for his act.

Savage lets some of his liberal positions slip sometimes and thats how i know he is a liberal ( that and knowing his past).

You might be able to spin some of the liberal things Savage has done like donating to a liberal pro-illegal democrat like Jerry brown but you can’t spin all the things he’s done put together. I’ve heard him even call for the Republican speaker of the House Denny Hastert’s resignation during the height of the congressional elections . and Savage’s “reason” for calling for this resignation was the liberal media manufactured Foley fiasco.

I can’t count how many times I’ve heard Savage say there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans, bash Republicans, bash Bush, bash Corporations, call for raising the minimum wage, expouse radical leftist environmental positions, call for more gun legislation (during the Cho case) and take other liberal positions.


54 posted on 12/17/2007 9:22:55 AM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: VA Voter
"The guy is playing the perfect foil for Bin Laden, who can now use Savage tapes to incite another generation of suicide bombers. As long as the GOP embraces fools like this I will remain outside the party - with pride.

Your kind of talk is what brought 9/11 on us. Yeah, make nice with the Muslim savages and all will be well. I don't like Savage, but I will take him over any Muslim terrorist any day of the week.

55 posted on 12/17/2007 9:23:25 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: VictoryGal
He doesn’t “carry water”

No, it looks like he's retaining it.

56 posted on 12/17/2007 9:28:32 AM PST by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - Ann Coulter is My Press Secretary)
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To: rurgan
“We need Patton, but instead we’ve got patent leather shoes from Yale.”

Most FReepers would agree.
What's your beef?

57 posted on 12/17/2007 9:34:08 AM PST by XR7
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To: camerakid400

I did listen to Wiener’s/Savage’s show. It is an act. Savage has been a life-long leftist and has all his life looking to be famous and make a quick buck. So is it illogical to assume that Weiner created Savage to make a buck and become famous.He saw what a sucess Rush was and this was his model.

This liberal is laughing at all of us conservatives but even laughing more at his audience who believe his act. I’ve even heard him put down Americans and his audience. He is laughing at his supporters who are making him rich and he thinks they are idiots for falling for his act.

Savage lets some of his liberal positions slip sometimes and thats how i know he is a liberal ( that and knowing his past).

You might be able to spin some of the liberal things Savage has done like donating to a liberal pro-illegal democrat like Jerry brown but you can’t spin all the things he’s done put together. I’ve heard him even call for the Republican speaker of the House Denny Hastert’s resignation during the height of the congressional elections . and Savage’s “reason” for calling for this resignation was the liberal media manufactured Foley fiasco.

I can’t count how many times I’ve heard Savage say there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans, bash Republicans, bash Bush, bash Corporations, call for raising the minimum wage, expouse radical leftist environmental positions, call for more gun legislation (during the Cho case) and take other liberal positions.

And that is a really weak excuse for Savage donating to liberal, pro-illegal immigrant Jerry brown. Why wasn’t savage caught donating to a conervative but donating to a liberal? I don’t see how a true conservative especially this moron who acts as fanatical as it does to donate to a liberal. Why would any conservative donate to a pro-illegal liberal since that’s what savage says is his signature issue illegal immigration? I would never donate money to a socialist/liberal who is for illegal immigrants.

I believe in deporting illegals, strong military, but i also believe in capitalism , the free market , property rights individual freedom and limited government which Savage does not.

It is the enemy within, liberals like Michael Savage, who will allow Islam to bring down America. Savage helped elect liberal/democrats/socialists to control congress by relentlessly bashing Bush and Republicans so that many of conservatives stayed home and didn’t vote. This Democrat congress will make the U.S. more vulnerable to being taken over by Islam . the threat from Islam is more than just from CAIR . there are 1.4 billion Muslims in the world and with liberals controlling congress and the being on the redio Islam will have no trouble downing the U.S.


58 posted on 12/17/2007 9:34:28 AM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: rurgan

Savage defeated the Amnesty bill by urging his listeners to call congress. Unlike Bill O’reilly, who endorsed it on his tv show.

So somebody who was a liberal in the 60s can’t become conservative? Yea, that makes sense. I was a liberal before 9/11.

You should support Savage because he has freedom of speech. Or, do you only support freedom of speech for republican Bush-loving talk show hosts? By default, you ARE supporting CAIR. Maybe you should stop bashing Michael Savage and worry about CAIR trying to silence people who criticize Islam.


59 posted on 12/17/2007 9:36:03 AM PST by camerakid400
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To: XR7

Someone should tell Savage(Michael weiner) and the rest of the liberals that the surge is working in Iraq.

So savage and the liberal media were wrong by demagogin Iraq to hurt Bush and so to hurt Republicans and conservatism and to advance liberalism/socialism in the U.S.


60 posted on 12/17/2007 9:36:54 AM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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