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The Crying Dutchman!

If the NYT and the IPCC are disappointed then all is not lost.

1 posted on 12/17/2007 4:05:30 AM PST by ricks_place
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At least the NYT is not demonstrating any bias here.


2 posted on 12/17/2007 4:07:22 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (I put my foot in my mouth once. I think I'll just leave it there, lest it happen again.)
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As a farmer, I’m disappointed by the climate just about every day. It never does what I want.


3 posted on 12/17/2007 4:09:30 AM PST by blackdog
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One would have required utilities to generate an increasing share of their power from renewable sources like wind. The other would have rolled back about $12 billion in tax breaks granted to the oil companies in the last energy bill and used the proceeds to help develop cleaner fuels and new energy technologies.

The government already taxes big oil. They tax them at the pump. Citizen's pay for the privilege of buying gasoline from Big Oil and are penalized to the tune of about 20% for it. Taxes in other ranks (not of the pump) would only add to the price at the pump and the collections the government would receive. There is no such thing as a "company" paying taxes. The cost of taxes and of doing business is all rolled into the price that consumers pay, especially with regards to commodities.

4 posted on 12/17/2007 4:12:04 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (I put my foot in my mouth once. I think I'll just leave it there, lest it happen again.)
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The Kyoto Protocol: A Post-Mortem

S. Fred Singer

It may not be a household word, but by now the Kyoto Protocol has become a well-known political slogan. President Bush has called it “fundamentally flawed,” while some environmentalists in America and Europe have said it is essential for saving the Earth’s climate and the future of humanity itself. Many on the right have called it economic madness, while for many on the left it is an ecological article of faith. There seems to be no position in between.

The Kyoto Protocol is a treaty intended to ration the use of energy in order to address the concerns of those who believe that we face a global warming catastrophe. These worriers include not only environmental groups and anti-capitalist radicals, but also a surprising number of mainstream technocrats throughout the West, such as former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill and Sir David King, the scientific advisor to the British government, who equates the threat of warming with that of international terrorism.

But the facts have always made it clear that Kyoto would be outrageously costly and completely ineffective—as designed, it would not even noticeably influence the climate. And more importantly, in light of recent developments, the treaty is essentially defunct. Now may be the ideal moment to reexamine the origins and shortcomings of the Kyoto Protocol, and to learn its lessons before future global warming treaties repeat its mistakes.

S. Fred Singer, “The Kyoto Protocol: A Post-Mortem,” The New Atlantis, Number 4, Winter 2004, pp. 66-73.

Full Text http://www.thenewatlantis.com/archive/4/singer.htm


6 posted on 12/17/2007 4:16:52 AM PST by Aristotelian (Freedom is “the absence of coercion.” F.A. Hayek, The Constitution of Liberty, 1960.)
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acting as spoilers rather than providing the leadership the world needs.

It's rare that I am in agreement with the NYT. US negotiators should not have gone the the conference in "foot dragging mode." Rather they sould not hove gone to the conference at all.

7 posted on 12/17/2007 4:20:13 AM PST by stevem
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It makes me feel so good to know that the New York Times and a bunch of European envirowhackos are disappointed.


8 posted on 12/17/2007 4:24:39 AM PST by NRG1973
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If its ‘man made global warming’ then does this mean that there will be no more ice ages?

I think they are blowing sunshine up our .... shorts. I think they are trying to deceive us as there will be glaciers covering Wisconsin in a short 10,000 years.

13 posted on 12/17/2007 4:43:37 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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Here's more on why the US should continue to drag its feet ... FreeRepublic
18 posted on 12/17/2007 4:52:06 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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There was so much clucking in this editorial, I wanted to order a 12-piece bucket.


21 posted on 12/17/2007 5:06:18 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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We need to (pretend to) have compassion for the editorial writers at the NY Times. After all, lately they've been taking it on the chin from all sides.

First, despite wresting control of Congress from the Republicans, their fellow-traveler Democrat buddies in the House and Senate have been miserable failures at advancing their dreams of World Socialism.

Then, despite the Times' heroic efforts to support the enemy, both by exposing classified information and by attempting to derail the use of the most effective anti-terrorist tools by the US through baldfaced half-truths and propagandizing, the Bush administration has triumphed again and again over their obstruction of the WOT.

Also, in a turn of events that must be unbearable to the Times' defeat-mongers, the tide has turned in Iraq, and people are even starting to use the "V" word to describe the war and its aftermath.

To add insult to injury, it was their very own comrade Nancy Pelosi who personally drove the stake into the heart of the "impeach Vice President Cheney" movement.

On top of all that, even after digesting this tear-jerker of a climate-change-foot-dragging-we're-all-doomed editorial, it's difficult for even the most perceptive reader to fully fathom the depth and extent of the hand-wringing, wailing, despair, alarm and sheer, gut-wrenching terror they must be feeling at the Times due to the latest success of the Bush administration's efforts in Bali to destroy life on the planet Earth as we know it.

Oh, and the recent humiliation delivered to Chavez and his goons must have put a decided chill into the Times' revolutionary fervor.

Just about the only things going in their direction these days are their hope that Iran will finally be able to develop their nuclear weapons without any interference by the West, and the prospect that Putin may be rebuilding the Soviet Union and resurrecting the Russian Communist Party, but even that joyful news (for the Times) must be tempered by realistic views of the enormity of the difficult task ahead for Putin and his old KGB buddies.

So let's all shed a cynical tear or two as the world's smallest violin wails its somber notes while the NYT's editorial board doubles up on their antidepressant meds...

23 posted on 12/17/2007 5:08:36 AM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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Global warming pact set for 2009 after US backs down (Pres Bush caves to PC crowd again)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1939938/posts

U.S. Accepts U.N. Climate Change Compromise Proposal (Barf alert)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1939847/posts

Agreement Reached at Bali Climate Conference

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1939820/posts

Most here were unable to grasp what a setback for the Kyoto crowd this was. Maybe the NY Times spelling it out will help.


24 posted on 12/17/2007 5:09:13 AM PST by tlb
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Wait until some defeatocrat whacko global warming policy bites the newspaper industry in general and the NYT specifically and watch them cry.

(”The moratorium on logging has prevented newspapers from printing enough papers to make a profit!”)

25 posted on 12/17/2007 5:16:32 AM PST by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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“In Washington, caving to pressures from the White House ...”

Geez, last week it was the White House who caved.


29 posted on 12/17/2007 7:47:35 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~


34 posted on 01/01/2008 8:02:00 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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