Mitt’s Meet mistakes

eyeon08.com ^ | 12/17/2007 | Soren Dayton

[JohnnyZ]

Mitt has always been a conservative. He thought the government shouldn’t be involved in abortion (I believe that now)

Mitt Romney supported government funding of abortion.

The government "shouldn't be involved"???

GOVERNMENT FUNDING of abortion.

I'd say that's pretty involved.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Why do you equate “christians” with “conservatives”?

I never mentioned “Christians”.

Why do you oppose a gay person serving in the military, and if you could change policy, would you get rid of don’t ask don’t tell and instead throw out all the gays?

[JohnnyZ]

Why do you oppose a gay person serving in the military, and if you could change policy, would you get rid of don’t ask don’t tell and instead throw out all the gays?

Ah, so that's why you support Romney -- you like his stance on gays serving openly in the military?

Don't ask, don't tell is working okay, I guess -- in general if a homosexual keeps his inclinations to himself he's not creating a problem.

[JohnnyZ]

And you're saying that anyone who opposes Romney's plan for a gay military, or who opposes DA/DT, "hates gays"??

Disgusting.

[CharlesWayneCT]

If I wanted to push openly gay people on the military, I would never choose Mitt as a candidate, because he opposes it unless the military command requests it.

My question to you was somewhat poorly worded, as what I wanted to ask was whether your opposition was based on the concept of military effectiveness, and based on the military’s assessment — which would mean you would support gays if the military said it was OK.

Or were you a moralist who opposed gays because the gay sex act was an immoral one, and having immoral people in the military is a bad thing, regardless of what the commanders think.

There are both kinds of people opposed to gays in the military. I’m in the first camp.

My position is different for the boy scouts. Again, I first support whatever their leadership chooses. But I generally oppose gay men in leadership positions. I would support gay parents in supporting roles, and would adopt a don’t-ask, don’t-tell policy regarding the children.

But I trust the leadership to make a more informed judgment than I can make.

My personal view on sexuality is that gay sex is immoral and sinful, and adopting the gay lifestyle puts a gay person in a state of active rebellion against God’s law.

Sin itself is forgivable by God, and not for me to punish. Choosing a sinful lifestyle in my belief puts you under the discipline of the church, and would support a church who refused fellowship to such people.

But as a matter of my secular life, I do not shun people, and I’m comfortable around gay and lesbian people.

I think my particular view of the subject makes me less concerned with Romney’s previous position, and happy with his current position.

I want to thank you for responding to me with a reasoned opinion, rather than simply dismissing me. Other than my choice of candidate, I think those here on FR should be able to have rational discussions of issues.

[CharlesWayneCT]

No. Romney supports Don’t ask, DOn’t tell. I think some people wouldn’t be happy if the military decided there was no reason to oppose openly gay members, because they personally dislike the gay lifestyle and all it represents.

Since Romney has no plan for a gay military, I don’t think there are “people who oppose his plan for a gay military”. He’d have to HAVE a plan in order for people to oppose “HIS” plan.

[JohnnyZ]

No. Romney supports Don’t ask, DOn’t tell.

FALSE.

Romney says this isn't the time to have gays serving openly because we're at war. As soon as we're not at war? Back to his long-standing position favoring gays openly in the military.

So how come pretty much every post you make is a gross misrepresentation?

[Theo]

Welcome to FR, where all the candidates are hated.

[CharlesWayneCT]

He said he had changed his position, that he now believed don’t ask, don’t tell was working.

His answer explained that you don’t think about changing the policy during a time of war.

You think we’ll win the war on terror in the next four years?

He also said it was up to the military, BUT his statement about war suggests he doesn’t think they should consider changing things right now either.

Every time someone who attacks Romney quotes from that debate, they always leave out the part where Romney clearly answers the question with a simple “YES”, and then makes a big deal out of the fact that Anderson Cooper was too stupid to know when his question was answered.

Any other candidate and we’d all be united in the obvious fact that Anderson Cooper is an idiot. But the mitt-haters will cling to ANY attack from ANY source in order to feed their hunger for anti-mitt stuff.